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btw, i was being fecicious about the drag pipes. i'm sure you would hate them in the pit/trails, lol. i don't think you realize what a huge sound difference almost every pipe makes over stock, and yes, nixing the box will reall add a big throaty sound from the intakes. just get some t-5's or dmc's. the 916's and aliens are the same pipe with different silencers, so i don't know which sounds better, but i'm sure it wil come up on a search. if you want a little more bottom, go with the t-6's. we just see these "loud pipe" threads all the time, and everyone gets all worked up, and not without good reason

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