Lets discuss!

[Snopczynski]

Start writing the book I'm ready to read.

 

Well we are going to get a bunch of opinions before the cats out of the bag on what this was being tested. There are going to be some suprising spins to it also.

[sheerider1026]

chart 2 shows a good little dip in power and tourqe right above 6k, but the numbers on the card do not represent this.. seems a lil fishy..

[sheerider1026]

but on chart 2 everything else seems to be a smoother linear curve for tourqe and hp.. not as eratic as chart 1

[kodie]

Chart 2 made its most torque from 7400 and kept it to 8300

 

Chart one made its most torque at 7400 but couldn't keep it up.

 

I don't know I'm just throwing shit out there.

Edited December 24, 2008 by kodie

[Snopczynski]

chart 2 shows a good little dip in power and tourqe right above 6k, but the numbers on the card do not represent this.. seems a lil fishy..

 

Its not fishy, it just wasn't a major sampling point. The dyno sampling program picks up major changes in torque and hp across the rpm range. It runs an averaging program on itself and decides what rpm points should be displayed as a generalized summary of what happened. The numbers shown and the graphs are actual and not averaged. They were just determined by the program as the best way to compare a specific charts numbers to the next that it may be compared to.

 

I agree with the comment about chart 2 being smotther and not as erratic. Or in power terms, not as peaky.

[Snopczynski]

Chart 2 made its most torque from 7400 and kept it to 8300

 

Chart one made its most torque at 7400 but couldn't keep it up.

 

I don't know I'm just throwing shit out there.

 

Your learning about torque backup, something that I consider 1 of 4 very important things in using a dyno to help build a strong and usable power combination. Good eye.

 

Torque backup comes in handy per say when you slow down and have to shift down like when your climbing a very technical hill or navigate through varying sections of an mx track. You let off the throttle and lose rpm. If you have good torque backup, you can get back on the throttle and build rpm quickly again without losing momentum and being able to continue on. Very important on a low-mid trail or mx motor.

[kodie]

Just watched your vids in your sig.... its not a 2 into 1 pipe is it?

[Snopczynski]

The setup on the dyno has similarities to the setup in the video, and some huge differences as well. But it was my motor on the dyno.

[Snopczynski]

Ok, now here is another run showing two major components ran together. Do not pay attention to max power or torque. This run was done on an entirely different dyno than the fist two charts. I know for a fact the dyno this run came off reads torque and hp scaling different through its correction program. You need to pay attention to the shapes of these power curves compared to the other two curves and let me know what you think. compare the 3 and provide feedback. Dont forget to keep providing input on the original 2 charts.

[98_banshee_newbie]

With or with out the boost bottle that has got to be what it is about. lol I really want to know also

[kodie]

so chart 3 is a completely diff set up then the other 2?

[BanditOnTheBanshee]

Your learning about torque backup, something that I consider 1 of 4 very important things in using a dyno to help build a strong and usable power combination. Good eye.

 

Torque backup comes in handy per say when you slow down and have to shift down like when your climbing a very technical hill or navigate through varying sections of an mx track. You let off the throttle and lose rpm. If you have good torque backup, you can get back on the throttle and build rpm quickly again without losing momentum and being able to continue on. Very important on a low-mid trail or mx motor.

 

 

how do i get more "torque backup"? i think this is what i was looking for in this post http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=105203

[kodie]

Dunno if this is with not paying attention to max numbers on chart 3 but torque starts out higher then hp.

 

Also on chart 3 it looks like if the hp would top off at 30 like the torque does the 2 lines would damn near match perfect. Can't say that about the others.

 

:shrug: I'm probably totally wrong and giving no helpful info.

[278]

The first one is kind of smooth, but peaky. The second is kind of long, but very choppy. The 3rd and best in my opinion has chop at the begining, but overall is long and smooth and makes the most power. I think the point of this is to prove to some people who want to argue certain points that they are wrong, they argue with out knowing and snop is tired of just using words... I dont think he's being mean just using proof to back up his statements. Whatever it is you've proven your point, you've got me sold!

[kodie]

The first one is kind of smooth, but peaky. The second is kind of long, but very choppy. The 3rd and best in my opinion has chop at the begining, but overall is long and smooth and makes the most power. I think the point of this is to prove to some people who want to argue certain points that they are wrong, they argue with out knowing and snop is tired of just using words... I dont think he's being mean just using proof to back up his statements. Whatever it is you've proven your point, you've got me sold!

 

 

Yep he's definitely going over the bar on this one.

 

Damnit snop I wanted to know before I went to bed...