thanks zillafreak that some helpful advice although I do kindly wanna keep it close to stock maybe what kind of a arms and stuff would I need? I don't wanna go over the top with it being extremely wide lol it is gonna be a trail rider but also whats a good setup on a 4mil stroker motor? like carb size long rod or short rod and all that good stuff lol I don't know much about making a reliable motor but im gonna be doing all the mechanic work thanks for the advice everyone