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  7. Tradin in the banshee.

    in General Banshee Discussion

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    hey if you want to make your banshee trail friendly... get some fmf knarlys.... trail ported cylinders at herjugsracing.... larger front sprocket smaller back sprocket i think thats the setup for more torque :shrugani:

    vforce 3 reeds..dyna fs programmable ignition... youll get a little more torque out of that and easir starts....dual K&n airfilters...off road radiatior...i think this should be good...some of the other people on here know more but there just not giving you a good trail setup...adleast i tried :shrugani:

  9. New 4 stroke banshee !

    in General Banshee Discussion

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    Has anyone read anything about the new 4 stroke banshee being confirmed yet!?

    they are supposed to start making it again very soon, with a 500cc twin cylinder 4 stroke motor !

    i know i know, its not a 2 stroke, but still, pretty awesome that they are going to keep the legacy alive and keep the banshee name going

    i hate to say it, but ill probably sell my banshee to help pay for one of these in a couple years, its gona be a 500cc twin , so it should be about half as fast as an R1, which is gona be insane !

    what are your thoughts/opinions ? are you gona get one when they come out?

     

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    dip shit... the yfz450r in 2006 was supposingly going to be called the new 500cc banshee 4 stroke .... you can see the 50th anniversary plastics on the 2006 model... then they changed the design and motor to their rivals suzuki and kawasaki which had the 450r

  10. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    On my machine, the Fatty's work best. I remember a while back Toomey was trying to show why their T-6 was bomb-diggity. Their dyno graph showed the Fatty to be superior in power at all levels (not by much) than the T-5. One of the characteristics people like about the T-5's is the "top end hit." My assertion is it feels that way because they have a weak midrange so the transition gives a nice rush.....but still lower HP numbers than the Fatty's.

     

    Now don't jump to conclusions here....they have removed the old Fatty dyno sheet. They don't specify whether they jetted appropriately, but using their T-6 as a baseline, compare the T-5's to the SST's. You'll see what I mean.

     

    http://www.atvsource.com/articles/press_releases/2003/022103_toomey_racing_tr6_racing_power_pipe.htm

     

    Remember!!! Pipes need to match porting!!!

    everything seems right but... the t5 are faster than the t6 why arent they on there

  11. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    I have a 4mil and have tried CPI's, T-5's and Fatty's on mine. The Fatty's worked best on my motor with it's particular porting...that being said, to say your motor is ported is extremely vague. Porting type, altitude, compression, primary intended use, and internal mods are all considerations to determine parts selection.

     

    If you had a trail port, you would HATE CPI's but maybe prefer a 2 into 1 setup or something of comparable performance.

    If you had a drag port, just about any pipe but CPI's or Shearers would hold you back. When they say that CPI's have good mid range, they mean good for a drag pipe...not even close to a Fatty or T-5.

     

    I lost every race with CPI's over the one weekend I ran them. Every race. I win most races I get into and I run Fatty's. IMHO an underrated pipe that gets badmouthed by everyone that's never owned them. For me, they offer better low-mid-top end than the T-5's I ran for a month.

     

    See, it's all about your components complimenting each other. When they work in harmony, you can beat a supposedly "higher performance" quad....sometime less is more!! There's vid in the viddy section to prove it!! :-)

     

    As to the longevity question, I disagree with those that say the pipes won't make a difference. The reason I disagree is that you run the CPI's a couple thousand RPM higher than Fatty's or T-5's (to get that T-5's on steroids thing) and everyone knows that inertial loading and wear is increase relative to the square of RPM so if you can get it done at a lower RPM your motor will last longer...like mine has so far!!

     

    It's easy to get caught up in the numbers game here but you have to remember that trails favor good, crisp throttle response with torque in the midrange. Running drag pipes doesn't make sense to get better performance for that 1% of the time it would be great to negatively impact the 99% of the time better midrange would suffer.

     

    My $0.02.

     

     

    thankss for explaining it better... it didnt come to me clearly your saying the fmf fattys are better than the t5's?

  12. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    Snop I dont understand why you are always saying T5'S are junk? I agree that there are lots of good working pipes out there and I also understand you have done lots of dyno work with pipes and I have done that also. I personally run T5 pipes and have for years on both my bikes and I love them. They work great on my 4 mill. I have ran CPI pipes and didnt care for them. I am not saying they are junk but for the riding I do I didnt care for them. I think there are lots of pipes out there that work well but just becasue you dont like a pipe on your bike does not make it garbage.

     

    Sounds like to me that just got banshee has made his mind up on wht pipes he wants and is just trying to find things to argue about lol.

     

     

    i dont want something to argue about...but like you said t5's arent junk and the guy below explaining the life spand of a motor

  13. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    The only merit to what you claim might be if you bolted both sets of pipes onto a completely stock banshee. If you plan on doing anything else to promote airflow-such as porting-the CPIs will pull harder than the Toomeys EVERYWHERE. I believe you fail to understand this. What I mean is...

     

    3000rpm-lol, you need a 4 stroke if you ride in this range

    5000rpm-hold on, both pipes are going to hit any moment

    6000rpm-BOTH pipes are building steam.

    7000rpm-CPIs are edging the T5s

    8000rpm-CPIs are undeniably leading the T5s

    9000rpm-CPIs are turning your knuckles white

    9500rpm-T5s are signing off while the CPIs are still pulling your nutsack out through your butthole

     

    The T5s are kind of a joke if you ask me. They are a bastard pipe that does excell in any area ("ooh man, they sound cool" does not count) Sounds like you want pro-circuits for low-mid setup. In fact, FMF fattys have been proven to pull on T5s by 2-3hp.

     

    No offense man, but less than a month ago you didn't know how to determine the volume of your engine or how drive/driven sprocket sizes affect final gear ratios. Now you're telling me how pipes that I've experienced/owned perform? Now, don't get butt-hurt. Everyone learns from the beginning (there was a time in EVERY member's life where they didn't even know how to jet a carb). I strongly suggest you frequent the FOR SALE section of the sight and E-bay for a good deal on a used set of pipes (whatever pipes you choose). If you have the patience, you won't have to drop $500-$600 on pipes. This goes for suspension components, cool heads, carbs, timing plates, ect...

     

    im not telling you which pipe is beter its just what ive heard from banshee people on here... i wanted to hear from some other people.... i dont just all dune i trail a little too sorry if i offended you :/

  14. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    You seem to be using some really twisted logic here and are discrediting the suggestions from more knowledgeable and well respected members who actually have experience with this very comparison.

     

    If you're going to create a topic asking what exhaust you should run for your set up maybe you should be prepared to listen to suggestions rather than relying on Trinity's falsified dyno charts to make such a decision and combat suggestions.

     

    I would not run any of Toomey's pipes on anything other than a completely stock motor. I'm assuming you have porting to go along with your 4 mil? I would probably run pro circuits or PT mids if you want this lower rpm performance you're going on about.shrug03.gif

     

    An exhaust has NOTHING to do with your engine life, the way you maintain it and the parts/builder you use will determine this.

    umm chill? and im not saying any exhaust does...but the are below t5 at 8500 rpm.... then at around 9k rpm they equal out and 9.5k they fall while cpi keep going...im not full out drag racing ... i dont want my exhaust to get its full power at such a high peak in rpm...t5 are meant for modded engines not sure what you are saying...yea ik cpi will beat t5 but at 9.5k rpm talked to alot of people on here and Roger at wicked atv says t5 is best for this kind of setup so im set know dont know why you gotta be so angryy everyone else is cool with me asking questions

  15. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    I think fmf or pro circuits are fail safe pipes.Both work good for any kind of riding unless all out drag.I think a lot of people arent being reasonanblein their pipe request.I dont think a set of inframe drag pipe would be the hot set up for tight woods even if they can be made to work...just my opinion use common sense

     

    thanks i heard toomey hit harder at a low rpm and im sticking with that seen many dynos but like i said after 8500 rpm the cpi pull way ahead of them...but with stock cylinders you shouldnt reach 10000 rpm to get your max power.... ull be re building your engine every 2 years at that rate maybe even less

  16. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    HAHA!!! Trinity says that!? Maybe on a completely stock engine. A modified engine the CPIs will pull on the T5s damn near EVERYWHERE. But, you seem to be dead set on T5s so go for it. Get yourself some Toomeys.

     

    There's a reason I sold MY Toomey T5s and replaced them with CPI inframes. I don't understand, for someone who has posted multiple topics reguarding "Banshee top speed" why wouldn't you want the benefit of the CPIs?

     

     

    ive just heard that the engine life is not as good with them

  18. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    If your engine is built with quality parts and your jetted correctly, your engine will run fine with CPIs. With a ported 4mil the CPIs will walk all over the T5s. I would also consider 33-35mm PWKs. Stock carbs are going to hold you back on the top end.

     

     

    also cpi picks up just a little later but at first the t5 destroys them at 8500rpm then they fall while the cpi keep going but stock cylinders shouldnt be reving at 10000 rpm ...i only see the need to do that if you are drag racing which i am not... also i hear the t5 have the sweetest sound out of all the pieps

  19. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

    Posted

    If your engine is built with quality parts and your jetted correctly, your engine will run fine with CPIs. With a ported 4mil the CPIs will walk all over the T5s. I would also consider 33-35mm PWKs. Stock carbs are going to hold you back on the top end.

     

     

    yea but the cpi wont beat the t5 by bike lengths...thatss stupid

  22. What exhaust for my setup

    in Jetting & Exhaust Forum

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    What kind of riding do you do? If you want something with good topend which it does sound like from your gearing change id go with cpi or shearer. The cpi will have a little more mid than the shearer with the sacrafice of not as much topend as the shearer.

     

     

    trails...they are wide open trails though by that i mean there are never short turns there are alot of oppurtunites to slow down ... .... dunes 1 or 2 every year

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