I would have to agree with you NYUK, There are alot of people who can build fast motors, The only point I am trying to make is from my personal experince and alot of other peoples, Passion is not one of them. I hate to see people pay alot of money for something and never get the power they want.. I have ran against some of those guys you mentioned, K&T,SSR, A&S, They are the real deal... They all performed good..