damn these questions get pretty heated. oh yeah anyway you have to compare on the sand thats where it counts. i say who cares whos faster stock i cant remember the last time a saw a stock banshee my 87 is close. hell anymore a banshee should come stock with FMF's or toomeys. i installed the stock pipes on my 87 god damn they go on funny. oh just incase anybody cares they are heavy and blow so f*ck it buy a set of pipes then laugh at every 4 stroke on the market. f*ck 4 strokes oh yeah isn't this the banshee HQ just checking??