Thanks guys, that really helped out my dilema...Hey Bitchenbanshee, I've got 10' douglas rims,and I only ride Glamis. My shee is not for sand draggin, I do it all, but I want some better traction. Did your chain really drag the ground or was it just low, cause I'm running the 8 paddle right now, and its low, but its not a problem in the sand, is the 10 paddle any different?