thelmuffinman Posted May 22, 2007 Report Posted May 22, 2007 Yesterday my best bud and I were riding our shee's all day. I never so much fun on a quad in my life. It was the first time since I bought the shee that I actually got to ride it for a while and get the feel of it. Anyway, when it's time for him to leave we park the shee's near my house. Go inside, eat dinner, decide we'll do two or three more laps. So he pushes his down the hill and drops it into gear and it starts up and he starts rippin. I push mine down the hill, drop it into gear and it just bogs. We try to get it started like 4-6 more times and no go so we call it quits for the day. Today, I go to the Yamaha dealer and pick up some coolant, carb cleaner, K and N cleaner, etc. Take off the carbs, clean them up, top off the coolant, and clean the filters. Put everything back together, push it down the driveway, drop it into gear starts right up. I sit there for 5 seconds and rev it up a little but. Put it in first go to ride down the rest of my driveway and right before it hits the powerband in first, it bogs and turns off. Tried starting it and it just bogs like before. I really don't want to take it to the Yamaha place becasue chances are I won't get it there until Thursday at earliest and it won't get done for the atv party I'm going to next Monday. So what do you guys think? What should I try to do? Open to suggestions for sure. Pretty aggrivated right now. Please help me. Sorry for the semi-long post/rant. Quote
blowit Posted May 22, 2007 Report Posted May 22, 2007 Yesterday my best bud and I were riding our shee's all day. I never so much fun on a quad in my life. It was the first time since I bought the shee that I actually got to ride it for a while and get the feel of it. Anyway, when it's time for him to leave we park the shee's near my house. Go inside, eat dinner, decide we'll do two or three more laps. So he pushes his down the hill and drops it into gear and it starts up and he starts rippin. I push mine down the hill, drop it into gear and it just bogs. We try to get it started like 4-6 more times and no go so we call it quits for the day. Today, I go to the Yamaha dealer and pick up some coolant, carb cleaner, K and N cleaner, etc. Take off the carbs, clean them up, top off the coolant, and clean the filters. Put everything back together, push it down the driveway, drop it into gear starts right up. I sit there for 5 seconds and rev it up a little but. Put it in first go to ride down the rest of my driveway and right before it hits the powerband in first, it bogs and turns off. Tried starting it and it just bogs like before. I really don't want to take it to the Yamaha place becasue chances are I won't get it there until Thursday at earliest and it won't get done for the atv party I'm going to next Monday. So what do you guys think? What should I try to do? Open to suggestions for sure. Pretty aggrivated right now. Please help me. Sorry for the semi-long post/rant. Get that thing to the point where it will not start, pull and plug and check for spark, if it fires, grab a can of WD40 and shoot a little in both carbs and see if it tries to start. If so, you have a fuel delivery problem. Unscrew the bottom screw on the carb bowls and see if fuel flows out. This will tell you if the bowls have fuel. If so, do a carb clean and pay careful attention to the pilots jets. Go ride. Sounds like a simple fix from here. Brandon Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Posted May 22, 2007 Get that thing to the point where it will not start, pull and plug and check for spark, if it fires, grab a can of WD40 and shoot a little in both carbs and see if it tries to start. If so, you have a fuel delivery problem. Unscrew the bottom screw on the carb bowls and see if fuel flows out. This will tell you if the bowls have fuel. If so, do a carb clean and pay careful attention to the pilots jets. Go ride. Sounds like a simple fix from here. Brandon I just cleaned the carbs today. Fuel is in both bowls. I'll check for spark in a little bit. And can someone please tell me which one is the pilot jet? I asked in my other thread yet no one could come up with an answer. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Posted May 22, 2007 Thank you so much! I wanted to ask for that before but didn't want to ask for too much. This forum gets better and better. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 Cleaned the carbs again today. Pulled the spark plug off on right side and no spark! Took all the electrical tape off the wires and checked the wires, spliced a few that were spliced together but looked old. Put everything back together and try to start it, still no spark. What do I do!? Quote
theshee Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 If you have no spark it could be a stator, or coil. I would check these things and start there. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 If you have no spark it could be a stator, or coil. I would check these things and start there. How, sorry I'm dumb. Quote
theshee Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 Nah... thats why this place is here to ask questions and get answers. You will need to get a clymer manual and it says how in there.. its too much info to type. I think there is a couple posts on how to do it. Use the search and see what that does. If not I will get my clymer and type it in here for you. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 Just picked up a Clymer! Thanks, I'll look. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 After following Clymer's steps, I got to the ignition coil test and think failed?? Here's my problem, I have a Digital Multimeter which serves as an ohm meter but I'm no electrition. So, when Clymer's says to set my ohm meter at r x 1, what the hell does that mean? Another thing, I don't even know where the red and black wires connect to the device, there is a com port, omega symbol port, and v port. Here's what I did, I plugged the red wire into the omega thing and the black wire to the com and set the meter on the omega side to this little thing that looks as if it's a radio wave or something. Anywho I put the black wire on the black tab on the ignition coil and the red one on the orange and my meter buzzed! When I connected the black to the tab on the ignition coil and the red to either or the caps, nothing. Took the caps off, had the black wire to the ignition coil tab and red to the spark plug wire with no cap and didn't buzz. This leads me to believe something is going wrong/it's time for a new ignition coil. I could be completely wrong as I obviously have no clue what I'm talking about when it comes to the whole ohm meter thing. Just read it, try to understand, and tell me what you think, thanks. Quote
theshee Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 It would make sense since you have no spark, and its not that uncommon of a thing for a coil to go out. Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 Is there any speccific brand or type that's better, or will stock do? Quote
blowit Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 After following Clymer's steps, I got to the ignition coil test and think failed?? Here's my problem, I have a Digital Multimeter which serves as an ohm meter but I'm no electrition. So, when Clymer's says to set my ohm meter at r x 1, what the hell does that mean? Another thing, I don't even know where the red and black wires connect to the device, there is a com port, omega symbol port, and v port. Here's what I did, I plugged the red wire into the omega thing and the black wire to the com and set the meter on the omega side to this little thing that looks as if it's a radio wave or something. Anywho I put the black wire on the black tab on the ignition coil and the red one on the orange and my meter buzzed! When I connected the black to the tab on the ignition coil and the red to either or the caps, nothing. Took the caps off, had the black wire to the ignition coil tab and red to the spark plug wire with no cap and didn't buzz. This leads me to believe something is going wrong/it's time for a new ignition coil. I could be completely wrong as I obviously have no clue what I'm talking about when it comes to the whole ohm meter thing. Just read it, try to understand, and tell me what you think, thanks. K, you need to disregard the buzz. That is set on meters to like 10 ohms and below it just lets you know you are near zero resistance. You need to look at the numbers on the meter. If it is auto ranging, let it do the work. Refer to the book for the numbers. I am really not sure that coils is bad. You WILL have high resistance on the secondaries meauring off the two spark plug wires. Unscrew the caps, test the coil, and test the caps separately. You can either learn that meter or pull out your pocket book and buy some new parts that MAY fix your problem. Brandon Quote
thelmuffinman Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 K, you need to disregard the buzz. That is set on meters to like 10 ohms and below it just lets you know you are near zero resistance. You need to look at the numbers on the meter. If it is auto ranging, let it do the work. Refer to the book for the numbers. I am really not sure that coils is bad. You WILL have high resistance on the secondaries meauring off the two spark plug wires. Unscrew the caps, test the coil, and test the caps separately. You can either learn that meter or pull out your pocket book and buy some new parts that MAY fix your problem. Brandon Probably just going to go to the Yama dealer tomorrow and have them test it for me real quick. Quote
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