erickson483 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 To start. I don't have an impact otherwise this wouldn't be an issue. I'm removing the primary drive gear nut off the clutch side of the crank but can't get it. How in the F am I supposed to get this thing off. Im too afraid to use any tools to hold the gear/crank from spinning. Any suggestions? And of course my clymer just says 'loosen the primary drive gear nut' lol. Any suggestions are appreciated Quote
notsed Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 ive done it by putting a rag in the gears so they cant spin Quote
erickson483 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Posted March 30, 2012 Actually. Does it even have to come off if I'm just swapping cases? It doesn't look like it Quote
Motooutcastxxx Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 No, you don't need to loosen it at all if you're just swapping cases.. Quote
erickson483 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Posted March 30, 2012 Awwww ya thanks for the help guys Quote
wfobasheeboy Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 ive done it by putting a rag in the gears so they cant spin ^^X2X2^^ Quote
BigRed350x Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 OMG don't do what these guys above said. If you are swapping cases you need to replace the crank seals, which requires the removal of the PTO gear and the nut you are talking about. Don't re-use the old case seal. You can put a piece of copper between the two drive gears to bind them in place and use the transmission/chain/rear end to hold everything in place. You can also do what the clymer manual describes and use a counter-set socket on the flywheel side of the crank and just use the crank itself to hold itself in place. As a last resort you could run down to a tire shop and ask them to use one of their impacts to bust the nut loose for you. Quote
BigRed350x Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 No, you don't need to loosen it at all if you're just swapping cases.. WRONG! Don't re-use old case seals. Horrible idea! Quote
erickson483 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Posted March 31, 2012 Even if the seals have less than an hour on them? Quote
erickson483 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Posted March 31, 2012 Screw it. Im not 100% sure that's true though. Idk how much I can trust someones word. New seals for me. Quote
Motooutcastxxx Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 WRONG! Don't re-use old case seals. Horrible idea! Ummm.. No shit. He didn't ask about replacing the seal, just if he had to loosen the nut to swap cases, replacing seals is fairly common knowledge. The question is, if you have the cases cracked open why wouldn't you replace the seals? It's just some cheap insurance. Quote
BigRed350x Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Even if the seals have less than an hour on them? Once your compress the cases on the seals you leave a groove in the seal where the cases meet. An entire seal kit is like $40. Anyone who splits cases on a regular basis should have a couple laying around. This isn't a sport for a cheap-ass. Do the shit right and use the right tools and have the right parts on-hand and ready or leave it to someone who does it the right way. - Jared Quote
BigRed350x Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Ummm.. No shit. He didn't ask about replacing the seal, just if he had to loosen the nut to swap cases, replacing seals is fairly common knowledge. The question is, if you have the cases cracked open why wouldn't you replace the seals? It's just some cheap insurance. You said above that you don't have to losen the nut to swap cases. The PTO gear sits inside the seal, which is all held on by the nut. If you are swapping cases, you should replace the seal, which would involve removing the nut to remove the water pump gear and remove the PTO gear and key, then the seal. In your first reply you say no you don't have to remove the nut to swap cases, which is WRONG. Duh. Quote
Motooutcastxxx Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 You said above that you don't have to losen the nut to swap cases. The PTO gear sits inside the seal, which is all held on by the nut. If you are swapping cases, you should replace the seal, which would involve removing the nut to remove the water pump gear and remove the PTO gear and key, then the seal. In your first reply you say no you don't have to remove the nut to swap cases, which is WRONG. Duh. Oh no dude don't get me wrong I know exactly what you're saying, but if one were so inclined to say something like, "fuck it I'm not going to change the seal," and I'm sure those people exist, you don't in fact have to loosen that nut. I thought about mentioning the seal, I guess I should have instead of keeping it short and to the point my bad, I should've known better. Quote
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