Trail shee

[shitkins]

Just picked up my first banshee. looking to build it for the trails, need some ideas on what swing arm and control arms to run. Any ideas?

[So Cal Suspension]

Depending on how tight your trails are, will limit your options.

 

Super tight trails, I would run stock width/length everything. If you have wide open trails, run +2+1 A-Arms, and maybe a +2 or +4 swingarm.

 

As far as shocks go... What is your weight, ready to ride? (With gear, helmet, everything)

[Keyser Soze]

We ride strictly trails here in Indiana. IMO you can't go wrong with any front shock that has remote rezzies. Stock rear shocks seem to be adequate. I'd go +2 +1 in the front and +4 in the rear. I prefer a-arms will ball joints over heim, due to all the mud a debris.

[shitkins]

Most trails up here are wide my jeep fits down almost all of them. I'm about 220 with all my gear. What's a good place to buy them at ? Yeah ill be going with ball joint a-arms for sure.

[So Cal Suspension]

Fireball Engineering makes great arms.

 

Personally, I wouldn't run ball joints on anything I own. I have never built a suspension system with ball joints, either. This argument could go back and forth for ever, but if you buy the FK brand Teflon heims, you will NEVER have an issue with them. They will outlast you and your bike. They are 10x stronger than those tie rod ends, I mean, ball joints. FK also sells boots for them that seal off completely. Better than ball joint boots every thought of being.

 

Anyways, reservoir or not, it's up to you. For riding trails, they are not necessary, whatsoever. It's a common misconception that reservoirs on ATV shocks make your shocks run cooler. The fact is, ATV shocks do not displace enough oil to generate enough heat to make a difference. ESPECIALLY front shocks. I have dyno'd shocks side by side and noticed a temperature difference less than 4 degrees F over 400 FULL strokes @ 40 SPM. Not significant enough to make any difference. The ONLY benefit to running reservoirs on ATV shocks is to keep the oil and nitrogen separate, preventing foaming of the oil, thus maintaining dampening characteristics. Again, on the dyno, I show a difference of about 16% dampening change in 400 full strokes. 90% of people wouldn't be able to distinguish the two apart.

 

You can buy fireball arms directly from them via their contact information under the sponsors tab here. As far as shocks go, if you're on a budget, contact Works Performance. If you don't have a budget, get a hold of Custom Axis Shocks. They make the best shocks on the market, hands down.

[shitkins]

Thanks man ill check then out. I'll look into the heims more, I used them on the steering I built for my jeep and I was braking them left and right. Thanks for your help its Nice to finally be on a forum that's not all shit talking and ass holes. I'm new to the atv world I didn't know they made this much after market stuff for the shee. Do they make a rebuildable poly bushings ?"johnny joint" "crawler joint" for the a arms I used those on my links and had really good luck with them.

[zach45]

-2 swingarm.

[wacko2000]

-2 swingarm.

 

X2- everyone talking about running a +4 on a TRAIL bike is crazy, YES it can be done and i have a +4 on my shee but it isnt ideal.

Stock swinger or a -2 is what you want for a trail bike...

Depending on what type of trails will determine how wide you wanna go, but dont cheap out on suspension, makes a world of difference when hauling ass through trails

Joe

[zach45]

-2 you will never look back. Ask wacko I do it all from hill climbs to trails to glamis. -2 is where it's at