bellracing2 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 what jetting are you at and whats your setup ( pipes , and airbox ) ? I am just curious as I am at a 55 pilot and still going up . I have a pj34 and 2 into 1 pipe and 2 into 1 exhaust . thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 what jetting are you at and whats your setup ( pipes , and airbox ) ? I am just curious as I am at a 55 pilot and still going up . I have a pj34 and 2 into 1 pipe and 2 into 1 exhaust . thanks What needle you running in it. More than likely you have the wrong one in there. 195 main, 42 pilot, eek or eej needle, 1.5-2 turns on the air screw. Run that on a ported 350 and tweak maybe 1 main jet size and needle clip position for the ported 4 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 What needle you running in it. More than likely you have the wrong one in there. 195 main, 42 pilot, eek or eej needle, 1.5-2 turns on the air screw. Run that on a ported 350 and tweak maybe 1 main jet size and needle clip position for the ported 4 mill. will the needle effect the pilot circuit ? I cant get it to sustain an idle with the 55 pilot the a/s is all the way in . I was gonna get a 58 tomorrow . this is a stock motor . I believe the needle is a dek or deg 4th from the top . the mid range and top end pull real good . 190 main is where I am at also with an open pod filter right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 will the needle effect the pilot circuit ? I cant get it to sustain an idle with the 55 pilot the a/s is all the way in . I was gonna get a 58 tomorrow . this is a stock motor . I believe the needle is a dek or deg 4th from the top . the mid range and top end pull real good . 190 main is where I am at also with an open pod filter right now look at the needle and tell me what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 look at the needle and tell me what it is. its a dek . 4th from the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 its a dek . 4th from the top I need to know your elevation and every single mod done to the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I need to know your elevation and every single mod done to the bike. 100% stock motor , dynoport 2 into 1 pipe , and 2 into 1 carb with 34 pj , pod filter . roughly 1000ft. elevation . thanks for the help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 100% stock motor , dynoport 2 into 1 pipe , and 2 into 1 carb with 34 pj , pod filter . roughly 1000ft. elevation . thanks for the help ! I would put an eek needle in it and start in the center clip position. Try a 42-45 pilot jet with a/f screw at 1.5 turns out to start. I imagine you have a lul in power right off the bottom right now. Thats not going to go away as long as you have that dynoport pipe on it. I would kick the single intake setup to the curb too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I would put an eek needle in it and start in the center clip position. Try a 42-45 pilot jet with a/f screw at 1.5 turns out to start. I imagine you have a lul in power right off the bottom right now. Thats not going to go away as long as you have that dynoport pipe on it. I would kick the single intake setup to the curb too. no lul in power , performs just like the single pipe stock carb setup I had last yr . I was just questioning the BIG pilot . right now I am at a 60 pilot , and it revs up real crisp and comes right back to idle . does not hang up at all and idles great with a/s @ 1 turn out . I was wondering though if I switch to the eek needle will it effect the pilot circuit any so I can run a smaller pilot . there are no air leaks , already tested for that + it ran great with the stock carbs + stock pipes . just seems the pilot I have to run to make it idle properly is alot bigger then anyone elses setup. I had a 45 in it and it would not idle at all , I have had every step up from that intil I started to see the a/s making a difference when the 55 -58 pilots were in it . then it would idle with the a/s all the way in . It took the 60 pilot before I could take the a/s out 1 turn and still idle good . any thoughts as to why ? are the pj 34's that much different then the pwk 35's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 2 into 1 intake setups act odd. The needle controls a huge portion of how the bike runs as compared to a twin setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 2 into 1 intake setups act odd. The needle controls a huge portion of how the bike runs as compared to a twin setup. so you tink if I put in the eek needle the pilot would come way down ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 so you tink if I put in the eek needle the pilot would come way down ? Try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armyvet Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 i had the cel needle in my single carb set up,i ran the 35pwk though.single carb set ups hit hard when properly dialed in,i loved mine.Too bad i sold that banshee.i think i was around a 185 main or so and 52 pilot?not exactly sure but it took a lot of trial and error to get it dialed in,but jeeting changes are so much easier with the single carb,perfect for being lazy..lol i heard all kinds of wish wash and BS from naysayers claiming you lose top end with single carb and yada yada ya but unless you have a drag port motor or dont know when to shift you wont notice it.this is from my personal experience.Been tuning b4 half of these yoyos were even born... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 i had the cel needle in my single carb set up,i ran the 35pwk though.single carb set ups hit hard when properly dialed in,i loved mine.Too bad i sold that banshee.i think i was around a 185 main or so and 52 pilot?not exactly sure but it took a lot of trial and error to get it dialed in,but jeeting changes are so much easier with the single carb,perfect for being lazy..lol i heard all kinds of wish wash and BS from naysayers claiming you lose top end with single carb and yada yada ya but unless you have a drag port motor or dont know when to shift you wont notice it.this is from my personal experience.Been tuning b4 half of these yoyos were even born... CEL is a double carb needle for pwk's on a banshee. That should have been in no way the right size if you were actually running that size main jet and pilot jet. As for as the single losing top-end hp over the duals, it is true. I have dyno tested almost a 5hp difference between the two carbs setups on the top end. This was also on a motor built for low-mid power. Riding the bike you can tell a huge difference. On my motor that was about a 8% difference in power output. Single carb setups dont make any noticeable low end torque gains. Its a noticeable gain in throttle response. The bike reacts a little quicker right off the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellracing2 Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Try it. OK , I got a eek and an eej on the way . thanks for the help . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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