Tough shifting

[dragbanshee]

my gearing is stock. ill give it a try launching in 2nd. am i going to start breaking a lot of parts if i launch in 2nd a lot?

 

 

No breakage! I never use 1st and im using stock gearing, it seems to fit! The banshee spins way to much anyway, so by loosing 1st gear, you're picking up valuable time. Just go out and practice a little, not much difference in launching other than saving time not shifting from an uneeded gear, in most cases with stock. Try it, you'll like it and won't go back! Plus win you a few more races.

[AKheathen]

why doesn't anyone take the time to figure out how to cut the tranny to be somewhere between stock and "dunable" so it helps in both arenas? Is it really that hard to put a small radius on the corner of the dogs to help it slide out? I understand there is a fine line to walk here, but as long as the angle on the flat side of the dogs aren't changed, then it doesn't force it out of gear when you backload them. i'm just saying......a.060 radius would do some good there without letting them push apart.

that radius is what happens when you grind the gears, and a little play or wear and it'll start poping out of gear and get 10x worse. you just need to increase the degrees of rotation that the dogs will be open to mesh, but the more you doo that, the more innertiagoing from one side of the dogs to the other when switching to backloading. this is why i suggest cutting the dogs shorter, so it will help, but not be too much distance to backload. i think cutting them @ the right angle will be alot harder and require alot more precision than the traditional method of milling the dog off to a flat surface. if i had a spare tranny, i'd try to set up a jig to cut the right angle, and then slowly cut and mic to uniformity. then, find out how i can get the surface hardened. thaqt shit is a pita to cut. i had to do it once by hand on second gear in a pinch because the tranny had windows, and parts are at least a week out. supprised it's still holding up. i normally wouldn't do something like that, but it works good, plus the gear does seem a little easier to find. i ended up cutting 1/8" out of the windows and 1/16" off the dogs to repair the rounded off edges, so i added a total of 3/16" clearance.

 

btw, on that gear, it only took about .025" difference on the fork to make it fall out of gear under load

[alf44]

my gearing is stock. ill give it a try launching in 2nd. am i going to start breaking a lot of parts if i launch in 2nd a lot?

I launch in second all the time as do alot of others. If you keep your bike maintained and learn to launch correctly you wont be breaking stuff. wind her tight and dump it. oh ya dont forget too lean forward. LOL!