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Just did a comp. test on the newly rebuilt motor, it's 150 in both cylinders, but that was when it was 27 degrees outside, Im running +4 timing, and the premium gas here is 90 octane, what should I run as far as fuel, Im thinking maybe mix premium with some 110 or 112 octane in a 50/50 mix?!

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You really need to find out what your compression ratio is. That's the only way to find out what octane you need. You can have 145psi, but 12:1 ratio, so you need 110 octane. On the other hand, you can have 165psi, but have 10.5:1, so 93 will work for you. It all depends on ratio, timing, port duration, temperature, humidity, and elevation. You can't base octane needs on cranking compression. You need to know the ratio.

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You really need to find out what your compression ratio is. That's the only way to find out what octane you need. You can have 145psi, but 12:1 ratio, so you need 110 octane. On the other hand, you can have 165psi, but have 10.5:1, so 93 will work for you. It all depends on ratio, timing, port duration, temperature, humidity, and elevation. You can't base octane needs on cranking compression. You need to know the ratio.

 

how do you do this...I know most people would like to know

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I've probably got these links posted in about 30 different threads man. But, here ya go. The Blaster pistons use approximately -1.5cc Piston Head Volume. That number changes slightly with different bores. It has to be a negative number for domed pistons. Stock style pistone are approximately -1.2cc.

 

Metric Conversion Calculator

Compression Calculator

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hey 2001stroker, can you help me with this calculator? i'm not sure what numbers to plug in the fields. i'm not exactly sure what the field descriptions actually are. i can tell you this....

 

hot rods 4 mil long rod stroker crank

wiseco 795 pistons

bored .020 over

custom cut 20cc stroker domes

HJR aggressive trail port / dune port

.050" squish

 

 

 

 

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In reference to this calculator, wouldn't stroke be calculated from the time the exhaust port closes? I.e. much shorter than the total stroke of the engine? I'm assuming this, since this appears to be a four stroke caculator and all the valves would be closed for the "entire" length of the compression stroke, whereas on a two stroke you are still "losing" compression until the exhasust port is closed. But, I also know you have a backpressure wave coming from the pipes that help to contain some of this loss. For instance I just plugged in a stock bore (64mm converted to In.)/stroke(54mm? converted to in.) with 18cc domes. Now, I didn't have a gasket/o-ring available to measure, so i assumed the gasket bore was the same the cylinder and a gasket thickness of .020" (not sure how accurate that is?). So, the numbers may not be exact and I understand that my static compression would change as a result of this assumption, but a minor amount. It calculated this to be a static ratio of 9.3:1 That can't be right can it?

 

EDIT: I thought BMEP (which I'm still trying to fully grasp) was the main calculation as far as octane requirements are concerned? I understand that there is a correlation between BMEP and compression ratio, but I don't have that formula...

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I've probably got these links posted in about 30 different threads man. But, here ya go. The Blaster pistons use approximately -1.5cc Piston Head Volume. That number changes slightly with different bores. It has to be a negative number for domed pistons. Stock style pistone are approximately -1.2cc.

 

Metric Conversion Calculator

Compression Calculator

 

 

 

You are on target but I did want to find out how you got your numbers for dome displacements? We did all of ours with a CMM and came up with vastly different numbers. Obviously that number can make a huge difference in calculating ratios.

 

 

Brandon

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You are on target but I did want to find out how you got your numbers for dome displacements? We did all of ours with a CMM and came up with vastly different numbers. Obviously that number can make a huge difference in calculating ratios.

 

 

Brandon

 

What is a CMM, and what numbers did you get for stock bore pistons?

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You are on target but I did want to find out how you got your numbers for dome displacements? We did all of ours with a CMM and came up with vastly different numbers. Obviously that number can make a huge difference in calculating ratios.

 

 

Brandon

You may want to define CMM for the masses......... (I have found the same thing by the way. I figure out my ratios in a Catia model. ) :geek:

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