shogs Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 So I just ordered a eek needle like snop said and it takes away some of the low end bog. But now I have another problem. I'm at 195 main, 42,45 pilot (tried both), and eek w/ clip in third spot. My problem is it idles perfect with my choke on and rides pretty good with it too, but when i take the choke off as soon as i let the rpms down it bogs right out. I don't understand what my problem is. Has anyone had this problem before? I have no idea what to do and have 2 days left to ride before winter breaks over. Quote
Snopczynski Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 So I just ordered a eek needle like snop said and it takes away some of the low end bog. But now I have another problem. I'm at 195 main, 42,45 pilot (tried both), and eek w/ clip in third spot. My problem is it idles perfect with my choke on and rides pretty good with it too, but when i take the choke off as soon as i let the rpms down it bogs right out. I don't understand what my problem is. Has anyone had this problem before? I have no idea what to do and have 2 days left to ride before winter breaks over. You can try moving the needle up and down. screw the air screw in, or you may need a different size needle (unlikely). Is it hesitant and bogging? Or is it gurgling and not gaining rpm? My guess is the low end is too lean still. Make sure you dont have any vac. leaks. Also the float level needs to be set at 11mm from the bowl mating surface to the float seam. You set it just as the needle barely contacts the float arm and shuts off the fuel flow. Quote
shogs Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Posted January 4, 2009 You can try moving the needle up and down. screw the air screw in, or you may need a different size needle (unlikely). Is it hesitant and bogging? Or is it gurgling and not gaining rpm? My guess is the low end is too lean still. Make sure you dont have any vac. leaks. Also the float level needs to be set at 11mm from the bowl mating surface to the float seam. You set it just as the needle barely contacts the float arm and shuts off the fuel flow. Its kind of hard to explain but when the bike is choked it can idle forever and runs good BUT, when i slow down it bogs out usually. When its not choked you have to keep it revving high and as soon as you let off it bogs out and when you try to save it it wont gain any rpm. Someone mentioned that you bypass the pilot when its choked - true? If thats the case then i've got something wrong with my pilot. I'm thinking its too rich but everyone tells me its way lean. I'll go out tomorrow and put my 42 pilot in and change the needle positions. Then do the same with the 45 and 50 if I have too. Quote
smartsshee22 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 I had the same problem with mine as well and it ended up being the idle screw. I had to run mine in pretty much all the way until the spring was completely compressed. This should help it idle a little better. See if that helps. Snop helped me dial my jetting in and I am running an EEK needle in the 3rd, 190 main and a 45 pilot at sea level so your jetting sounds pretty good from what I see depending on your altitude. Let us know. Quote
shogs Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Posted January 4, 2009 I had the same problem with mine as well and it ended up being the idle screw. I had to run mine in pretty much all the way until the spring was completely compressed. This should help it idle a little better. See if that helps. Snop helped me dial my jetting in and I am running an EEK needle in the 3rd, 190 main and a 45 pilot at sea level so your jetting sounds pretty good from what I see depending on your altitude. Let us know. I turned the idle up and what do you know, its fixed. Now the only problem I have is still a little bog every once in a while in first. I might drop my main to 190 because 195 might be a little rich. I'm at sea level as well :thumbsup:. I just need to mess with the air screw a little to get it perfect, what are you at? Thanks for the help guys. Quote
smartsshee22 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) I turned the idle up and what do you know, its fixed. Now the only problem I have is still a little bog every once in a while in first. I might drop my main to 190 because 195 might be a little rich. I'm at sea level as well :thumbsup:. I just need to mess with the air screw a little to get it perfect, what are you at? Thanks for the help guys. Cool I am glad that helped. Yeah I am running a 190 main and a 45 pilot. That should remedy that bog. One other thing to look at is what needle you are running. If you have the DEK needle than I would put the clip all the way to the bottom until you can get an EEK needle. Then put the clip for the EEK needle in the third position. That should help as well. That bog sounds like the same problem I had a few weeks ago. I just had mine out at Glamis and it ran like a champ! Edited January 7, 2009 by smartsshee22 Quote
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