[Banshee Track/Trail Build]

On 1/11/2022 at 6:39 AM, tfaith08 said:

I mean you pretty well have it wrapped up.

Biggest thing I can add is to go with nerfs that have race position pegs, gripper seat, 4/1 rims, make sure the suspension and alignment is dialed in, and cut as much weight off as possible, especially off the front.

Roll your controls down a little more than normal as well.

Above all else, you want to get comfortable at riding aggressively. A lot of people unintentionally hold their breath during corners or jumps. Once you do that, you can really start to identify what needs to be fixed as far as ergonomics go.


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Do you know which nerfs have a race peg? I have alba nerfs right now. Not that many companies make nerfs for the banshee as far as I know there's Lonestar, XFR, and Alba (and all the other brands that are the exact same as alba). 

I would love to run a set of Rath/Factory 43 nerfs with the full nets but I don't think those brands offer an option for the banshee. Wonder if anyone has done a custom setup that isn't too hard. 

Also, the nerf bars I have on right now have custom nets from JSR Moto Designs

[Banshee Track/Trail Build]

On 1/10/2022 at 7:39 PM, DDQ said:

For mx racing, even local, you will need a tether kill switch and number plates. In NC number plates are required even when using transponders. Also,in some districts, lights must be covered or removed for safety. 

Your setup will be pretty fun. Good job buying PT mids. If you want to cancel your order from Duncan they are pretty readily available used. If you want to go that route I can help you locate a set.

You really need to use 8" rear wheels with 18" tires or you run the risk of bending wheels. Some tracks demand low air pressure (I raced with guys in FL running 1 psi) to get good traction.  I'd recommend 4:1 offset. It will be narrower but handle better. Most local district races will not measure width but there is a chance you will have to drive through the boards. 50" is the max legal limit. You can use trail tires but you will get much more tired faster than using mx tires. You will get 10x more tired in a mx race than you have ever gotten practicing. I promise. 

For swingarm length I like stock. I ran a -1.5 for years and went back to stock length. I just think the quad handles a little better at stock. Also, fun fact, stock length is what Duncan used on their national mx banshee back in the early 2000's. 

Sprocket size is useless to speculate on. You will likely need to change gearing from track to track. I carry a variety of sprockets and chains when I go to tracks and change them accordingly after a couple practice laps. 

Thank you,

I have  teather switch on already. Number plates i'll get taken care of

If you could help me locate a set of PT mids that would be awesome!

Ill order a set of DWT champion in a box or locate a used set for the rears and ill pair them with some hoosier/cst/obor mx tires. I should be under 50" with a 4/1 offset

I need to find a Lonestar stock length roundhouse swingarm or source a used set, then sell my +2.

Ill buy a few different chain and sprocket combinations once the rest of the quad is almost done. I usually stick with steel sprockets and DID gold chains

Also forgot to mention I have a urmosi throttle 😆

 

[Banshee Track/Trail Build]

[Banshee Track/Trail Build]

[Banshee Track/Trail Build]

I am converting my 421 Banshee to a track/trail build. I want to build a banshee that I can ride 50/50 at the track and in the tight CT trails. I spend Saturdays at the tracks here in New England, mostly MX23 in Mass. Also want to do a couple of races this year, not an entire series. I also ride in the trails around here which kind of suck, but i'm looking to go to upstate NY/VT/NH a few times this year where the trials are much more open and there's some big fields I can get wide open in. The 421 setup I had sucked for trails and track.

What parts should I put on my bike to make it suited for all of the above?

Engine:
Currently I'm getting stock cylinders ported by Herr Jugs. He's doing his MX hardcore port
4mil Long rod crank
21cc Domes
Coolhead
Stock Carbs with Vito's needles
Billet manifold with Chariot reeds
Paul Turner Mids (if they ever come back in stock)
Stock air box with lid removed

Controls:
Trail Tech Vapor
ASV Levers
Flexx Bars
Alba +2 Stem
Alba Nerf Bars

Suspension:
Wicked +2 A-arms
Tusk Extended Axle (+1 to +3)
Lone Star billet hubs
Elka Legacy Long travel front and rear shocks
Elka Long travel linkage
Swingarm ?
14/40 sprockets (honda pattern hub). DID regular chain

Questions:
1. What length swingarm should I run. I have a lonestar +2 on that I was using with my 421. I see some guys saying that -1 makes the bike feel like a 250r. What do they mean by that? Do you guys recommend a -1 or stock length?
2. What wheels/tires do you guys recommend I run for this setup? RIght now im on 10 inch wheels (3/2 offset) with hoosier trail tires. Was thinking about trying a set of 8inch wheels with a 4/1 offset on the track and using the 10 inchers in the trail. (and go down to a 38t sprocket with the 8inchers)
3. Is there anything I should consider changing or adding?

[PA riders.]

My two buddies and I are planning on doing a trip over to PA pretty soon. We are from CT. Looking to shred some hill climbs, trails, and whatever else is out there for a couple days.

[Can’t find a comfortable throttle]

I have a 421 Banshee with 38mm pwk carbs. I’m running a moose throttle right now and the thumb throttle stars too far in front of the bars which causes my thumb and hands to cramp up immediately.

i thought about running the moose dual gasser so I can have a twist and thumb throttle but I heard those aren’t good and the thumb will still be uncomfortable

i found that chariot made a nice throttle that will open 38mm carbs and it has an adjustable thumb lever but he apparently stopped making them a few years ago

My ideal option would be to run a Honda throttle but from what I’ve read those will only open up a 35mm carb once the inside of the throttle has been ground out to the max

so I think my only option is to switch to 28mm pwk carbs and run a Honda throttle. Unless anyone else has any suggestions? Let me know what you guys think, thanks.

[OEM Banshee Parts]

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