OK, I bought the Honda, I paid for it $2050 stocky, 1 owner need some TLC but run very strong. I'll need a set of front tires,the seat has one cut like 2 inches and one of the upper arms has a cut in the ball joint rubber or cover no play at all but I think that Honda does not sell just the rubber or cover for the ball joint and a good clean!! My wife rode it and she said , still like more the Banshee LOL!! anyway maybe later it will be my second ATV. Here a picture how pick it up!!