some states are not atv friendly. i live in pa and no matter what you do if you dont have the original title you cant get a new one. i also think its bullshit that i got a perfectly good frame and would have to trash it because i cant get a title even though i got a bill of sale. so i got a title and stamped the vins and now its registered. also most of stolen banshees are chopped up and sold for parts. this might be illegal but its what the fucked up goverment makes you do even if you do everything right. bill of sale even notarized dont mean shit i even had the original vin ran by the cops and it came up clean but it dont mean shit if you dont have the original title. so think you should be greatful you live in a state where its easy to get a replacement title and not comment on something you dont know about. oh yeah the cheapest frame i could find with shipping was 400.