I'm not sure why I ask questions but I continue to do so. Once again, the answers were not for the question I posed.
I know the purpose of an extended swingarm. That wasn't my question.
My question, quite simply, was if a person was not using an extended swingarm would a set of out-of-frame pipes clear the tire?
If you look at any picture with a Banshee outfitted with a set of oof pipes, it appears that if the tire is kept in the origianl factory position it would be very close to the stingers if not touching it.
Has anyone here actually run out-of-frames on a bike with stock swingarm, stock width axle, and stock tires?