hey thanks guys. actually I am only a fourth of havoc. hence the reason why we have almost no lead time and carry them in stock. sent you a pm about a swingarm like kiels, wallace. I will defenetely get back to you shayne when we start building ladder bar style and some wilder custom arms. we are open to custom builds of any kind. gonna have drag steering stems in production in a week or two. along with plenty of other products.