I had no problem beating the DS650 baja. A guy I ride with has 2 of them. It hits the limiter very quick. My shee was hummming away . His ds650 did beat a raptor by a whole quad, But I think it may have been the rider. The DS650 is a heavy machine also. There not bad machines, But not for me. Lets face it Yamaha makes the best Quads ....