Here's what I don't get. If you haven't even ridden it then how do you know what you have anyway? Dynoedge has done all the work on my quad and stood by everything the have done or recommended. Plus from what Rob told me he did make you a fair offer, but you said you didn't have the time to drive back up, but you sure found time to B!TCH about it . If you are that worried about $500 for new pipes maybe you should have done a little research and ASKED before yo bought those G@Y pipes. Dynoedge has banshee dyno's with all kinds of different pipes and set ups. But the bottom line is if you haven't even rode the quad then I wouldn't be talking smack when that is someone's livelihood and reputation on the line. Stay in OH where you belong with the other goons!