very different from the full flights, i liked them better thats why there on my bike. they were just recently sandblasted and powdercoated Hydro white (just a bright glossy white) all the ball joints are good, no dents or scrapes. i know they are definantly extended, but not positive on +2 or if they make +3's? they were definantly longer than the full flights i remember. if its not raining or blizzarding out tomarrow i will promise some updated pics, and take measurements. they are still on my banshee right now. Thanks