FredMW Posted March 15, 2007 Report Posted March 15, 2007 Nobody liked my boost bottle joke............. :sad: I did , :biggrin: useing a Boost Bottle for a comedy prop, finally something it's good for. Quote
FireHead Posted March 15, 2007 Report Posted March 15, 2007 I did , :biggrin: useing a Boost Bottle for a comedy prop, finally something it's good for. Plus, alot of people don't realize it, but you can put your weed in there. :yelrotflmao: :yelrotflmao: Quote
dajogejr Posted March 15, 2007 Report Posted March 15, 2007 Plus, alot of people don't realize it, but you can put your weed in there. :yelrotflmao: :yelrotflmao: Yep, no need to hide a bong in your banshee if you got a boost bottle.... :yelrotflmao: Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) yea ok now i get it. i would like to make it a 420 so from what i understand i need to increase the stroke from the crank. ( and ya, the cylinders are BAD) 40 COMPRESSION x_x OK SO I BUY JUST STANDERED .020 OVER PISTONS, GET THE JUGS BORED, (oops caps) while theyre off imma get them ported and i want to replace the crankand i need to shave the heads? where would i be able to get lets say... a 6 mil crank? what would that make the motor? im shooting for a 420. now thst i get how this works =). anything i need to do to it when i get this done? ( besides doing the general break in stuff) wait do i need to replace the WHOLE crank to fit the 6's in there or can i just replace the rods? and with 6mil rods and .020 pistons that would make this a? money isnt too much of a problem. where i get all this. IN OTHER WORDS WHAT IM ASKING IS, HOW DO I MAKE THIS STOCK BANSHEE INTO A 420? Edited March 16, 2007 by chris1992 Quote
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 yea ok now i get it. i would like to make it a 420 so from what i understand i need to increase the stroke from the crank. ( and ya, the cylinders are BAD) 40 COMPRESSION x_x OK SO I BUY JUST STANDERED .020 OVER PISTONS, GET THE JUGS BORED, (oops caps) while theyre off imma get them ported and i want to replace the crankand i need to shave the heads? where would i be able to get lets say... a 6 mil crank? what would that make the motor? im shooting for a 420. now thst i get how this works =). anything i need to do to it when i get this done? ( besides doing the general break in stuff) wait do i need to replace the WHOLE crank to fit the 6's in there or can i just replace the rods? and with 6mil rods and .020 pistons that would make this a? money isnt too much of a problem. where i get all this. IN OTHER WORDS WHAT IM ASKING IS, HOW DO I MAKE THIS STOCK BANSHEE INTO A 420? You need aftermarket cylinder sleeves or an aftermarket cylinder block in addition to adding stroke to the crankshaft. I polodize if that isn't that helpful. I missed a large portion of this thread. Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 ok so where do i get those and whats a cylinder block? never heard of that and my dads a mechanic..... or maybe i call it something else? Quote
korndawg Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 I don't know about a 420, but I think you can get it to 421 by going with some new sleeves, 68mm pistons, and a 4mm crank. Quote
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 ok so where do i get those and whats a cylinder block? never heard of that and my dads a mechanic..... or maybe i call it something else? A cylinder block would be something like a set of Cheetah, T-Rex, or Cub Cylinders. You could get the aftermarket sleeves from Vito's, L.A. Sleeve, Superior Sleeve, or Trinity. The aftermarket cylinder block is the best value if you conider the performance you gain against time and money spent. :thumbsup: Quote
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 I don't know about a 420, but I think you can get it to 421 by going with some new sleeves, 68mm pistons, and a 4mm crank. The issue with the new sleeves is that you have to usually bore the cylinder casting to install the larger sleeves, which is a pain, and then you have to port the casting after that. If you go for the sleeves that don't require the casting to be rebored (I am not sure if that type is available for the displacement he wants), I think the sleeve becomes to thin and you run the risk of many varieties of hot seizure because the sleeve doesn't have enough mass to properly disperse heat. :geek: Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) OOOOO what about this? http://www.trinityracing.com/products/yama...nshee420cc.html =) =) =) so if i bought that.. ( to put on a totally stock banshee) what would i have to do to it? someone said something about shaving the heads or something like that and they said if i didnt it would hit or something? edit- found this too- http://www.trinityracing.com/products/chee...cheetahcub.html i could keep the stock crank and just buy a bigger piston and that would work cheaply and effectively.. right? and then theres this- http://www.trinityracing.com/products/chee...;products_id=85 mwhahahah! i can appaernly get all the way up too 482 cc's with the stock crank. cause i just rebuilt my motor to replace the seals and that WAS NOT FUN. so i REALLY dont want to replace the crank. EVA! so im really diggin that cheetah kit for 472. unsure on the price though. gah nvm just read it. can only get to 400 either way. i think im going to go with just the sleeves or the whole cheetah kit that uses the stock crank.. and if i want to l8r down the road i can change the crank and give it more, gonna go with the cheetah kit and go from there with the crank maybe a few onths down the road. so if this cylinder goes bad i can still bore it out to ditch the scratchs right? i dont really know how cheetah engines work and if they work the same. Edited March 16, 2007 by chris1992 Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 so imma go with the 400cc kit* (uses stock crank) chetah kit. itll work perfect. since i need new head and new reeds. =) itlll work perfect. so what carbs for this setup. Quote
dajogejr Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 I seriously just got a headache trying to read all that. Here's what you need to ask yourself. How much do you want to spend, and what are you looking to get out of it? If you get a Cheetah, you're getting different intakes. You're getting a different head, you're buying a swingarm, good pipes, carbs...etc. Lockup clutch, override tranny....etc. Have you thought about getting a good solid port job on your OEM cylinders? Too many people want to buy a cub or cheetah motor, and just drop it in without looking at the clutch, tranny...pipe selection. it's a lot more than bolting a motor together. Hope this helps... Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 so what ur saying is that a 400 cc cheetah motor is gonna be too much for the stock equipment? sry bout all teh writing. and if it is too much, could i just put the big bore cheetah cylinders on it and it would be fine? cause i mean.. its not like im buying the 17mm crank cub motor. money isnt TOO much of a problem but id like to get it for as cheap as possible. Quote
chris1992 Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Posted March 16, 2007 also where do i find the "2 into 1 air intake" system where u just take off the airbox put this adapter on, and attch a univeraal k&n filter. Quote
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Posted March 16, 2007 I seriously just got a headache trying to read all that. I circumvented that problem by not reading it. :ohmy: Quote
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