yr7 math

[LiftdT4R]

Uhh, problems like the one above, are very tedious, and I don't see how being able to do them in your head have any practical application. I would be extremely pissed if a teacher was ever stupid enough to give me a problem like that. Wasburn's right, in the field, if my boss saw me trying to take a square root like that in my head he'd probably fire me.

 

I can attest to that being a machanical engineering major, thats nothing compaired to what i am going to be doing in calc 2 this year, and then i have calc 3 after it. lol

 

 

Also, Calc 2 for me was no where as near as hard or tedious as trying to figure out 10 digit square roots. If you see the practicality in the problems it really isn't that hard and is somewhat useful. Calc 3 gets a little harder, but still not too bad.

[FireHead]

Uhh, problems like the one above, are very tedious, and I don't see how being able to do them in your head have any practical application. I would be extremely pissed if a teacher was ever stupid enough to give me a problem like that. Wasburn's right, in the field, if my boss saw me trying to take a square root like that in my head he'd probably fire me.

Also, Calc 2 for me was no where as near as hard or tedious as trying to figure out 10 digit square roots. If you see the practicality in the problems it really isn't that hard and is somewhat useful. Calc 3 gets a little harder, but still not too bad.

 

With certain sort of equations and math techniques I can look at it and see the answer. Square roots are one of those things, altleast most of the time. I can do the same thing with CNC programs when relating them to a print. Past that sort of stuff I need to atleast write it down on paper to work with it. :thumbsup:

[LiftdT4R]

With certain sort of equations and math techniques I can look at it and see the answer. Square roots are one of those things, altleast most of the time. I can do the same thing with CNC programs when relating them to a print. Past that sort of stuff I need to atleast write it down on paper to work with it. :thumbsup:

Well, it's a talent I guess, and somewhat useful, but it's not something I think teachers should be spending a whole lot of time, never mind testing kids on. I could think of better things to teach students then stuff like that.

 

I can get to 169, which is 13, but past that, and I'm definately using a calculator.

[FireHead]

Well, it's a talent I guess, and somewhat useful, but it's not something I think teachers should be spending a whole lot of time, never mind testing kids on. I could think of better things to teach students then stuff like that.

 

I can get to 169, which is 13, but past that, and I'm definately using a calculator.

 

The CNC program thing is a very usefule talent. The rest is pretty much worthless. Nobody care's if you can do it or not. :thumbsup:

[LiftdT4R]

The CNC program thing is a very usefule talent. The rest is pretty much worthless. Nobody care's if you can do it or not. :thumbsup:

Cool, I have no experience with CNC stuff, I used a Sharp machine once in a lab in school, but never after that. I'm guessing your an ME right? I got my CE degree in '03, but I'm taking a few courses again this semester I'm thinking about taking the PE exam, so I took a prep course, and some fluids courses, I was thinking about doing a major in enviormental, it might be kinda useful.

[FireHead]

Cool, I have no experience with CNC stuff, I used a Sharp machine once in a lab in school, but never after that. I'm guessing your an ME right? I got my CE degree in '03, but I'm taking a few courses again this semester I'm thinking about taking the PE exam, so I took a prep course, and some fluids courses, I was thinking about doing a major in enviormental, it might be kinda useful.

 

What's a sharp machine. I am assuming it's made by Sharp, but I didn't know they made CNC machines. I have had several job titles ranging from manufacturing engineer to mechanical engineer. I have a BS ins vehicle design and an MS in mechanical engineering. If I had it to do over again, I would probably get an MBA instead of the MSME. I took the EIT portion of the PE test while I was still working on my BS degree and finally got the whole license process taken care of about 4 years ago in Washington. I moved to California fairly wuickly after that and I haven't ever bothered to try an figure out the PE process down here. I can tell you this, my PE license has not done a damn thing for me, in fact I have never had an oppotunity to use it. It obviously isn't something that it hurts to have, I am just not sure how worthwhile it is these days. :thumbsup:

[LiftdT4R]

What's a sharp machine. I am assuming it's made by Sharp, but I didn't know they made CNC machines. I have had several job titles ranging from manufacturing engineer to mechanical engineer. I have a BS ins vehicle design and an MS in mechanical engineering. If I had it to do over again, I would probably get an MBA instead of the MSME. I took the EIT portion of the PE test while I was still working on my BS degree and finally got the whole license process taken care of about 4 years ago in Washington. I moved to California fairly wuickly after that and I haven't ever bothered to try an figure out the PE process down here. I can tell you this, my PE license has not done a damn thing for me, in fact I have never had an oppotunity to use it. It obviously isn't something that it hurts to have, I am just not sure how worthwhile it is these days. :thumbsup:

Damn, that's some education, it took me sooo long to finish up my 1 degree. Yeah, the CNC machine was made by sharp, I remember because it always said Sharp Tools cut the best or some shit whenever it started up. I work in construction so in order to sign off on projects, and stuff like that you need to be a PE, it's not really essential, but it would be nice, plus the company I work for foots like 70% of the bill.

 

I wish I went for something interesting like Vehicle Design or ME, but there isn't a lot of work going on around here unless your Civil. I get offers left and right for new jobs(granted they aren't very good). My buddy's an ME, and about the only thing he could find was a machine shop, or else people wanted him to move out west.

 

There's a lot of engineers on this board, I think BigRed is too, and I know Ive talked to a few others. I guess a little engineering knowledge helps on this kind of stuff.

[FireHead]

Damn, that's some education, it took me sooo long to finish up my 1 degree. Yeah, the CNC machine was made by sharp, I remember because it always said Sharp Tools cut the best or some shit whenever it started up. I work in construction so in order to sign off on projects, and stuff like that you need to be a PE, it's not really essential, but it would be nice, plus the company I work for foots like 70% of the bill.

 

I wish I went for something interesting like Vehicle Design or ME, but there isn't a lot of work going on around here unless your Civil. I get offers left and right for new jobs(granted they aren't very good). My buddy's an ME, and about the only thing he could find was a machine shop, or else people wanted him to move out west.

 

There's a lot of engineers on this board, I think BigRed is too, and I know Ive talked to a few others. I guess a little engineering knowledge helps on this kind of stuff.

 

I think having a PE license in the civil field is probably worthwhile. It always seems like the job posting I see that have something to do with civil engineering require a PE license. I just could never get into buildings and roads as something to work on every day.

 

I have an MS degree mainly because the university where I got my BS degree from had employed me as a program assistant and one of the perks was that they cover 100% of my educational expenses. The downside about my educational background is that most of the jobs that pay well for someone like me are in CA, MI, NC, Europe, or Japan. If I had an MBA instead of a MSME I would have been promoted a couple time over at my current company. It also kind of hurts me that I am not Japanese, but that's another story.

[racer]

but you pretty much need to know how to do the work by hand in the first place to ever be successful using the aforemention tools.

I used to wonder why I needed to know all they tried to teach me; and it was only after I learned it all that I realized I learned more than they said. Its about thought process and logic, plus its a damn good way to weed out the idiots. ME's prob wouldnt make jack shit if anyone could sign up to be one, like bein a business major. haha.

[FireHead]

I used to wonder why I needed to know all they tried to teach me; and it was only after I learned it all that I realized I learned more than they said. Its about thought process and logic, plus its a damn good way to weed out the idiots. ME's prob wouldnt make jack shit if anyone could sign up to be one, like bein a business major. haha.

 

If I had it to do over I would get and MBA instead of MSME degree. I would be several rungs up the ladder and make twice as much money. ::

[racer]

If I had it to do over I would get and MBA instead of MSME degree. I would be several rungs up the ladder and make twice as much money. ::

THat may be true, but your bach would still be worth may more than one in biz.

[FireHead]

THat may be true, but your bach would still be worth may more than one in biz.

 

Your right. I just have discovered that an engineering bachelors degree and an MBA seems to be the winning combo these days. :thumbsup:

[JET 99]

The CNC program thing is a very usefule talent. The rest is pretty much worthless. Nobody care's if you can do it or not. :thumbsup:

 

 

what brand machine tools do you program? lathes,horizontals,verticals etc...

just curious, i am on the flip side doing machine repair of cnc tools

mostly mazak,okuma,warner&swayse,cincinatti....

(electrical,mechanical,pneumatic,hydraulic)installation,fabrication..

[FireHead]

what brand machine tools do you program? lathes,horizontals,verticals etc...

just curious, i am on the flip side doing machine repair of cnc tools

mostly mazak,okuma,warner&swayse,cincinatti....

(electrical,mechanical,pneumatic,hydraulic)installation,fabrication..

 

I don't do as much of it as I used to, but I mostly do 5 axis mills, 7 axis mill/turns, and a program for a lathe every now and again. The mills are made by Deckel Maho and Makino. The lathes are Gildemeister and the mill/turns are WFL's. We are switching out alot of the DMG equipment for Mazak's as they depreciate as they haven't been the most reliable machines. In fact I thinks it has been a few months since I have written a program for any thing other than a personal project. :wink:

[MILO]

if you are still in school, don't listen to the guys that tell you "you will never use that stuff anyway". you have no idea what you will get into in the future in your work environment. some people don't ever use it, others will need it. i didn't go on to college, just college prep in high school. algebra 1, 2, 3, - geometry 1,2 - pre calc, calculus - physics - not to mention biology 1,2 - chemistry 1,2, and so on. anyway, i'm in a position now, as a fabrication department supervisor, that my math skills have paid off. not bragging or anything, but i have forgotten more than some people have ever learned, at least it seems that way with most of the guys who work for me, lol. i don't remember how to do a lot of things, (been out of school for 15 yrs) but when i sit down with an engineer to discuss a process or figure something out, i remember enough to not be totally lost. i remember having speech classes, that i thought were completely worthless and i'd never have to give speeches or presentations. wrong again. i couldn't tell you how many employee meetings i've had to lead, or meetings with upper management or peers that you have to more or less give a little presentation to justify your actions or future plans or ideas.

 

if you're in a position to get a well rounded education, do it. and use it, or you will not retain it and you'll one day regret not putting the effort into it when you had a chance to.

 

wow, did i just say all of that. re reading it makes me feel old!! :yelrotflmao: