LEAKING COOLANT AND GUNK

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I RATHER NOT HAVE YOU READ A HOUR LONG PROBLEM ON WHATS RONG

 

I leak coolant and oil from between my JUGS and my case ( case/jug gasket ) after about a 5m minute ride i park it and 10 minutes later i got green stuff on my floor and its not pot ... cases are really gunked up on the header side from it .

 

also the engine has not been runnin HARD since it has been doing that ( loss of compression my guesss ) seems like it tops out easier and slower in shorter distance . possible piston goin bad

 

question , should i double gasket it ? would that be a common newb mistake ? they were torked correctly when done ( bolts ) .... give me ure 2 cents plz

[dawarriorman]

If its leaking, then its gaskets. Take it apart, clean the gasket surfaces well, then get some new gaskets and put it all together. Ride it a little while, then check the torque on everything again.

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i wanted to double bag the gaskets ... use two ? just so i can have re assuring will that it wont do this again.

[locogato11283]

i wanted to double bag the gaskets  ... use two ? just so i can have re assuring will that it wont do this again.

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dont do that...some ppl dont even use gaskets..just a sealer sometimes..mine uses a very thin paper gasket andits never leaked..there must besome type of other problem here...

[87sheerips]

did u re-torque it after running it so much after the initial rebuild?? I usually run a heat cycle, retorque, run it for a longer time, and torque again. Try retorquing and see what happens.

[bigboybanshee]

You shouldn't be leaking any oil from underneath your cylinders (where they meet the cases)....if oil is there, then I would think you have a leak between your case halves somewhere along with the leak you're mentioning. The only oil that should be getting in/around your jugs should be the 2-stroke oil you mix in the gas, which you're not gonna see after it's been mixed.

 

What kind of sealer did you use to put the case halves together? I also don't recommend using two gaskets to try and fix the problem. All it would be doing is covering the problem, only to allow it to develop into a much bigger problem down the road.

[sheefreak]

Are you sure its oil and not just crud and grime collecting because of the coolant leak? I would stop riding it right now also, that coolant is destroying your pistons if it is getting in the cylinder. It will eventually cost you lots of money. And definately don't use two gaskets. You are going to need to pull the jugs off(at least) and inspect it further. If nothing else is wrong other than a leaky base gasket, and you haven't destroyed anything yet, check to make sure your mating surfaces aren't warped and put in the new gasket. Torque and retorque as everyone else has instructed you to do, should be good to go.

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after talkin to breidy , a local bhq'r he told me theres no way coolant should come from the bottom base gaseket . so i used my brain and looked at the situation further.

 

first removed my pipes and noticed green inside the pipe a litle , then i took off top head, and realized there is coolant in my pistons , my piston walls are fine and so are the pistons . the new question is WHY DID i blow head gasket.

[bigboybanshee]

Are you sure it was the head gasket that blew? Could be a crank seal...something tells me that you should do a leak down test and see how well the crankcase is sealed up. breidy was correct, you should NOT see any coolant leaking at the base of the jugs

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i wish i had all these tool's ..... before the coolant was noticable , i noticed a great great great loss in speed . and when i mean great i mean stock banshees were givin me a run ! for a few seconds split crank ?

[bigboybanshee]

I'd bet breidy has a leak down tester, or could help you make one. They're not hard to make and only takes about 10-20 minutes to test. If I'm not mistaken, there were a couple posts on here about how to make your own leak down tester with instructions on how to use it...if I can find it, I'll post a link. You probably started losing power when the antifreeze worked its way into the cylinder....doesn't combust too well.

 

What do you mean, split crank?

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my crank is stock not welded or nothin , i heard you can split them over time with too much clutch poppin on ashphalt and hard ragging. i split my one on my warrior that is now gone thank god * f 4 strokes * heres the pics of my pistons .. but it makes sence as to why it was going so slow , not combustable fluid lol ... lets just hope it was that problem

 

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not to mention my cylnder walls are / feel smooth and fine ..... nothing major damage done top end

[locogato11283]

after talkin to breidy , a local bhq'r    he told me theres no way coolant should come from the bottom base gaseket . so i used my brain and looked at the situation further.

 

first removed my pipes and noticed green inside the pipe a litle , then i took off top head, and realized there is coolant in my pistons , my piston walls are fine  and so are the pistons . the new question is WHY DID i blow  head gasket.

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coolant can in fact come from under the cylinders. if your plugs are not sealed in good on the bottom of your cylinders they can leak...

[Justintoxicated]

a good start would be checkin the head to make sure it is flat and flush. get some 600 grit sand paper and place it on a nice thick piece of flat glass and slowly move the head around, check the head and make sure there is some scuffing across the entire bottem and that it is compleatly level.

 

That woud suck if it was the rubber plug in the cylinders.

 

Don't use 2 gaskets!

 

Hopefully your case is not full of collant.

 

Might as well pull the cylinders all the way off and inspect everything.