Trouble Starting

[2004LEBanshee]

This happened a few months ago. I used to have stock piolits and it would start 1-2 kick everytime. But after I read a bunch about people with my set up runnin 30 piolits I tried them out.

I went riding one day and messed with the air screws and idle to the point where I think it runs good but the first time I start it, it takes a few kicks to get going. Then when warm it starts with ease. Whats up. Should I go back to the stock piolits and 21/2 turns out or what. Oh yea to get it to idle with these 30 pilots I had to turn the Idle screws a bit. Is that normal? Once I get it to start once it runs great, never stalls loads up or anything.

Edited December 18, 2004 by 2004LEBanshee

[Banchetta]

This happened a few months ago.  I used to have stock piolits and it would start 1-2 kick everytime.  But after I read a bunch about people with my set up runnin 30 piolits I tried them out. 

I went riding one day and messed with the air screws and idle to the point where I think it runs good but the first time I start it, it takes a few kicks to get going. Then when warm it starts with ease. Whats up. Should I go back to the stock piolits and 21/2 turns out or what. Oh yea to get it to idle with these 30 pilots I had to turn the Idle screws a bit. Is that normal?  Once I get it to start once it runs great, never stalls loads up or anything.

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Jetting is trial and error. Whatever works best for your shee. Hows the throttle response? The air screws fine tune the mixture for your pilots, so yes it is normal for your shee to run better at a different air screw adjustment w/ different pilots.

[2004LEBanshee]

If my pilots are lean will it start easy?

[Banchetta]

If my pilots are lean will it start easy?

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no, especially cold. A rich pilot will suffer throttle response as well as a lean pilot, so there is something to look at also. A really rich pilot will load up the motor when idling and you'll find yourself revving it out to clean it out.

[sredish]

With a rich pilot, you'll also find out you can often cold start without the choke. This sounds like a good idea, but not necessarily because if it's so rich you don't need the choke, there goes some throttle response like Banchetta mentioned and/or the loading up and fouling.

 

I usually think of it like this: If you DO NOT need to choke to cold start, it might be rich, and if you DO need the choke to warm start, it is probably a little lean. Having to use the choke is normal and it can help you figure out where you need to be sometimes.

 

Above all, trial and error. Just like women, they all like it different ways.....

[2004LEBanshee]

Ok when it was warm out when I first jumped from stock to the 30's I never used the choke to start. Now at 10 degrees I do. But with the stocks I used the choke and it would start 2nd kick every single time. Maybe I should try an in between size. Is it 27.5? I dont notice it loading up ever but who knows?

[Banchetta]

When I had a 27.5, my shee started first kick like you said w/o choke, but my throttle response wasn't as crisp even adjusting the air screws, so I decided to kick the shee over 2-3 kicks w/ the choke and have better throttle response...every shee is different according to pipes, elevation, temp, etc, so you might find the opposite, try a 27.5 maybe your jumping too much at once..

[sredish]

For what it's worth, my banshee liked 27.5's with the Fatties also.