rjdgriff Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 i have a 98 banshee bored 10 over have toomey t5 exaust kn filter and durablu rear axle. i ride roads mostly but also like to hit the mud, fields and trails... i have a stock front sprocket and it dosnt quite have the pull i am looking for in the mud so my question is should i go with a 12 or 13 tooth front sprocket and how much difference will each one make/ thanks for your help Quote
toytech Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 i have a 98 banshee bored 10 over have toomey t5 exaust kn filter and durablu rear axle. i ride roads mostly but also like to hit the mud, fields and trails... i have a stock front sprocket and it dosnt quite have the pull i am looking for in the mud so my question is should i go with a 12 or 13 tooth front sprocket and how much difference will each one make/ thanks for your help welcome to bhq each tooth you go down on the front will make a noticable difference Quote
muggzy Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 i have a 98 banshee bored 10 over have toomey t5 exaust kn filter and durablu rear axle. i ride roads mostly but also like to hit the mud, fields and trails... i have a stock front sprocket and it dosnt quite have the pull i am looking for in the mud so my question is should i go with a 12 or 13 tooth front sprocket and how much difference will each one make/ thanks for your help Stock Gearing sprocket-sprocket is 14:40. The mechanical advantage (MA) is 40/14 = 2.857 If you change to 13:40; The MA = 40/13 = 3.076 3.077/2.857 = 1.077 or a 7.7% increase in torque at the rear axle. This also means 7.7% lower top-end speed and earlier, more frequent shifting If you go with 12:40; The MA is 40/12 = 3.333 3.333/2.857 = 1.167 or a 16.7% increase in torque and a corresponding loss of top-end speed compared with stock. I'm running 13:41 (~10.4% increase in torque) and ride mostly woods with some steep, rocky trails and a little mud and I find the trade-off between power when I need it and frequent shifting is acceptable. But I'm new at this so the math stands - my opinion you should take with a grain of salt. You can calculate your own set-up by substituting your numbers for the stock numbers and comparing as I did in the examples for your planned set-up. You'll have to use your experience and imagination from there :-) Quote
muggzy Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 ^ Oh! You'll notice a corresponding higher rate of wear on the front sprocket with each tooth less also. I went with a Moose 13T Chromalloy (sp?) on the front, a Sunstar 41T steal rear and a Marshall (9000lb) chain. That mud is like grinding paste so don't use aluminum, it's just too soft. Quote
locogato11283 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 13 is the smallest I would go in front. The 12 is a pretty tight turn for the chain. You can fine tune your gearing with the rear sprockets. Quote
bansheesandrider Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 Stock Gearing sprocket-sprocket is 14:40. The mechanical advantage (MA) is 40/14 = 2.857 If you change to 13:40; The MA = 40/13 = 3.076 3.077/2.857 = 1.077 or a 7.7% increase in torque at the rear axle. This also means 7.7% lower top-end speed and earlier, more frequent shifting If you go with 12:40; The MA is 40/12 = 3.333 3.333/2.857 = 1.167 or a 16.7% increase in torque and a corresponding loss of top-end speed compared with stock. I'm running 13:41 (~10.4% increase in torque) and ride mostly woods with some steep, rocky trails and a little mud and I find the trade-off between power when I need it and frequent shifting is acceptable. But I'm new at this so the math stands - my opinion you should take with a grain of salt. You can calculate your own set-up by substituting your numbers for the stock numbers and comparing as I did in the examples for your planned set-up. You'll have to use your experience and imagination from there :-) Stock gearing for ALL years EXCEPT 87-88 is 14/41 and in 87-88 the stock gearing is 13/42, just don't want anybody to be confused. Quote
muggzy Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 Stock gearing for ALL years EXCEPT 87-88 is 14/41 and in 87-88 the stock gearing is 13/42, just don't want anybody to be confused. Thanks sandrider, I stand corrected. The examples still hold. Quote
rjdgriff Posted July 7, 2010 Author Report Posted July 7, 2010 you guys have been most helpful! im rather new to all of this and you all are makin things alot easier thank you all:) im learning alot and i am in love with bansheehq.com!!! Quote
muggzy Posted July 7, 2010 Report Posted July 7, 2010 Glad to help! I've still got a lot to learn too Quote
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