midlifecrisis Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 I got my cylinders in the mail today, what do you guys think? I was told they were .010 over, but on the top of both pistons it says 1.00mm, doesnt that make them .040 over? Or am I reading too much into it? I was also told that they were coming with a trail or mx port, is that what this looks like? There appears to be filler along the bottoms of the intakes then was smoothed out, does this mean that they have gone thru into the water jacket area? Or is this normal? Its more smooth than a regular casting and has been smoothed out alot. Any input would be appreciated. Also there is a recognizeable M S on the side of the cylinders, anyone we know? http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx162/amidlifecrisis/my%20banshee%20portjob/ Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Posted March 14, 2010 I got my cylinders in the mail today, what do you guys think? I was told they were .010 over, but on the top of both pistons it says 1.00mm, doesnt that make them .040 over? Or am I reading too much into it? I was also told that they were coming with a trail or mx port, is that what this looks like? There appears to be filler along the bottoms of the intakes then was smoothed out, does this mean that they have gone thru into the water jacket area? Or is this normal? Its more smooth than a regular casting and has been smoothed out alot. Any input would be appreciated. Also there is a recognizeable M S on the side of the cylinders, anyone we know? http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx162/amidlifecrisis/my%20banshee%20portjob/ What, nobody? Dont take it out on me cause of yesterdays photos! Quote
WantABanshee Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 I'm not an expert but wouldn't it be nice to see an intake picture Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Posted March 14, 2010 I'm not an expert but wouldn't it be nice to see an intake picture Here the respnse I got when I posted a shot of the intake "Cant tell shit from looking at the intakes. Lets see a few pics of the transfers and exhaust." Im the one looking for advice, Im the confused one? Hers the intake shot, Im wondring about the filler in the corners? Quote
Wildcardracing Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 Took a quick glance at you photobucket page. No idea who MS is and didn't notice the filler you were asking about. I suspect they used an epoxy to smooth the floor transition to the cylinder sleeve on the intake? I would be leary of doing this for fear the epoxy might come loose. The work looks to be fairly clean. However, the exhaust port looks quite wide for the application you were told they were for based on what I could see in the pics. But depending on intended pipes and target RPM peak you need to factor port area as a consideration. Make yourself a wire jig that fits snug accross the widest portion of the exhaust and measure it to get port width. Then get measurements of the cylinder from base to deck to see if they have been decked at all(not including the sleeve protrusion at the bottom). Then measure from the deck down to the roof of the exhaust and the roof of the transfers. Get back to me with these measurements and I can give you a better idea of what to expect. It's very hard to tell much besides port shapes and how clean the work is from pictures. Measurements would be needed. As for the piston size 1.0mm would be .040 over (65mm bore). -Brandon Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Posted March 14, 2010 Took a quick glance at you photobucket page. No idea who MS is and didn't notice the filler you were asking about. I suspect they used an epoxy to smooth the floor transition to the cylinder sleeve on the intake? I would be leary of doing this for fear the epoxy might come loose. The work looks to be fairly clean. However, the exhaust port looks quite wide for the application you were told they were for based on what I could see in the pics. But depending on intended pipes and target RPM peak you need to factor port area as a consideration. Make yourself a wire jig that fits snug accross the widest portion of the exhaust and measure it to get port width. Then get measurements of the cylinder from base to deck to see if they have been decked at all(not including the sleeve protrusion at the bottom). Then measure from the deck down to the roof of the exhaust and the roof of the transfers. Get back to me with these measurements and I can give you a better idea of what to expect. It's very hard to tell much besides port shapes and how clean the work is from pictures. Measurements would be needed. As for the piston size 1.0mm would be .040 over (65mm bore). -Brandon Dude, If it wouldnt be too much to ask you to explain that in lamens terms. Im pretty new to this! Just explain a little about what each of those terms are and I can measure accordingly. I get some of it, and will measure right now. My present mods that I know of are Pro circuit platinum exhaust, and a K&N filter My mods to be installed shortly are, these new cylinders and a Vitos head with 22cc domes. I am at 300 ' ASL. Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 I got my cylinders in the mail today, what do you guys think? I was told they were .010 over, but on the top of both pistons it says 1.00mm, doesnt that make them .040 over? Or am I reading too much into it? I was also told that they were coming with a trail or mx port, is that what this looks like? There appears to be filler along the bottoms of the intakes then was smoothed out, does this mean that they have gone thru into the water jacket area? Or is this normal? Its more smooth than a regular casting and has been smoothed out alot. Any input would be appreciated. Also there is a recognizeable M S on the side of the cylinders, anyone we know? http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx162/amidlifecrisis/my%20banshee%20portjob/ I have to apologize to the guy who sent these to me as I have misread his listing to me, it stated that these were 1 over and not 10 over like I thought. Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 Took a quick glance at you photobucket page. No idea who MS is and didn't notice the filler you were asking about. I suspect they used an epoxy to smooth the floor transition to the cylinder sleeve on the intake? I would be leary of doing this for fear the epoxy might come loose. The work looks to be fairly clean. However, the exhaust port looks quite wide for the application you were told they were for based on what I could see in the pics. But depending on intended pipes and target RPM peak you need to factor port area as a consideration. Make yourself a wire jig that fits snug accross the widest portion of the exhaust and measure it to get port width. Then get measurements of the cylinder from base to deck to see if they have been decked at all(not including the sleeve protrusion at the bottom). Then measure from the deck down to the roof of the exhaust and the roof of the transfers. Get back to me with these measurements and I can give you a better idea of what to expect. It's very hard to tell much besides port shapes and how clean the work is from pictures. Measurements would be needed. As for the piston size 1.0mm would be .040 over (65mm bore). -Brandon Here is what I have tell me if something seems stupidly wrong. exhaust ports o/d 44mm i/d 38mm base to deck height 113mm deck to roof of exhaust 31mm deck to t/o primaries 43mm deck to t/o secondaries 43mm deck to t/o boost port 42mm deck to t/o intakes 76mm Quote
mopar1rules Posted March 15, 2010 Report Posted March 15, 2010 Here is what I have tell me if something seems stupidly wrong. exhaust ports o/d 44mm i/d 38mm base to deck height 113mm deck to roof of exhaust 31mm deck to t/o primaries 43mm deck to t/o secondaries 43mm deck to t/o boost port 42mm deck to t/o intakes 76mm Seems like your exh port hasn't been raised at all, but your transfers and boost have been raised. Quote
midlifecrisis Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 Seems like your exh port hasn't been raised at all, but your transfers and boost have been raised. Whats that going to transfer into? This was sold to me as a mx port job Quote
mopar1rules Posted March 16, 2010 Report Posted March 16, 2010 well, based off a .017" (.43mm) deck height, and the dimensions you gave, your exhaust port is 179.13* duration, transfers are 122.47* duration, and the boost is 127.87* duration. blow down is 25.63*. pretty low IMO. i would shoot for 30*. Quote
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