jesse1004 Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 ok, I am trying to run my wire harness just like the diagram in the electrical FAQ's. I am all done except for the engine stop switch. If I can I would like to run the engine stop through the actual key seeing I already have a hole cut in my fenders to hold the key assembly. My only question is what is the brown and the red wires for on the key side of the connectors. it has 4 wires in and 2 coming out. My thinking is I should just be able to hook the black and the black/white wire from the engine stop to the black and black/red wires to the key connectors. If this is not possible I may just get a toggle and put it somewhere inconspicuous. let me know what you think. Quote
Bansh-eman Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 well this probly doesnt help you any but you can eliminate the key by following the 4 wires to the plug ... un plug it and cut the bottom plug where theres 2 wires... spile those togethter and you dont need the key... also you can get rid of the big light and kill switch thats stock and do like i did and move the lights to a toggle under your seat and put a cr 250 kill switch to help clean up the bars... just a thought Quote
jesse1004 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 no that really doesnt help much but I do appriciate the input. I guess I plan on keeping the key because I already have a hole in my fenders for the key assembley. but what I am trying to do is to keep it funtional as a kill switch instead of just having it there doing nothing. but it looks like I may just run a toggle as a kill switch for the time being untul I have more time to trial and error. Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) cant you just take your kill/light switch apart, find the ignition wires in there, run them to the key switch and use it as the ignition. then do what Banshe-man (aka Mr. huge signature lol) said about splicing the key wires together..? then use a toggle switch for your lights. EDIT: or just leave the kill/light switch there for the light function only... no? Edited February 20, 2007 by Mullet Man Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) i see it now, i dont see why it wouldnt work.. both black wires (from key and from kill) go to the headlight and then the other on each switch runs back to the CDI. splice the keyed wires like bansh-eman said and then route the kill wires or wire over to the key switch. the main will always be on (effectively eliminating the key) and the kill switch controls power. shouldnt be any different then leaving your key in the on position all the time and just using the kill "as the main" i dont think anyway, lol i'm just thinking out loud http://www.bansheehq.com/index.php?option=...2&Itemid=28 Edited February 20, 2007 by Mullet Man Quote
Snopczynski Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 i see it now,i dont see why it wouldnt work.. both black wires (from key and from kill) go to the headlight and then the other on each switch runs back to the CDI. splice the keyed wires like bansh-eman said and then route the kill wires or wire over to the key switch. the main will always be on (effectively eliminating the key) and the kill switch controls power. shouldnt be any different then leaving your key in the on position all the time and just using the kill "as the main" i dont think anyway, lol i'm just thinking out loud http://www.bansheehq.com/index.php?option=...2&Itemid=28 So your keeping the stock kill switch on the bars and using the key switch? Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 So your keeping the stock kill switch on the bars and using the key switch? me personally, no. i have a tether wired into the stock kill wires (light and kill switch eliminated) and havent rewired my lights to a toggle yet. i do still use the key switch (main) also. but i dont see why the factory kill/ignition couldnt be wired into the key switch, when combined with the splicing of the key switch wires together...? Quote
Snopczynski Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 The key switch is already a kill switch, it doesn't need to be rewired. Am I missing something here? Turn the key off, and the engine dies! Quote
Bansh-eman Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 The key switch is already a kill switch, it doesn't need to be rewired. Am I missing something here? Turn the key off, and the engine dies! he wants to make it the main kill and get rid of the one on the bar...???? why me not know? Quote
jesse1004 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) i see it now,i dont see why it wouldnt work.. both black wires (from key and from kill) go to the headlight and then the other on each switch runs back to the CDI. splice the keyed wires like bansh-eman said and then route the kill wires or wire over to the key switch. the main will always be on (effectively eliminating the key) and the kill switch controls power. shouldnt be any different then leaving your key in the on position all the time and just using the kill "as the main" i dont think anyway, lol i'm just thinking out loud http://www.bansheehq.com/index.php?option=...2&Itemid=28 which wires are you talking when you say the "keyed wires" he wants to make it the main kill and get rid of the one on the bar...???? why me not know? exactly, I know its hard to give an answer without actually seeing it. Edited February 20, 2007 by jesse1004 Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 the keyed, would be the main switch (4 wires that turns into 2) in the wiring diagram in that link. you would need to bypass it like bansh-eman said, where it shows at the cdi in that diagram of the wiring harness that is cut down, so its on all the time. then in the same diagram, where the kill switch is, just wire in the actual key switch instead of the kill. to me that means the key will now be the ignition kill and the main will be on (because of the splice). then just address the headlight wiring. :shrug: Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 looks like crap but thats suppose to be a swap arrow between the main (key) and engine stop (kill). plus the splice is circled, the R/B wire coming out of the CDI Quote
jesse1004 Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 YES! Im not crazy. that is what I had in my head but putting it to paper was dicey. I would of liked to just go out and try it but my bike is tore apart at the moment. thanks for the help mullet Quote
Mullet Man Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) no prob. it should work. i dont see why it wouldnt. the only thing i can think of is a possibility of it needing to be wired backwards (wire swap left to right, right to left kond of deal at the key). IF the switches are different (open vs. closed) but i do not know 100% for sure... a little trial and error at that point will yield the result. Edited February 21, 2007 by Mullet Man Quote
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