Banshkid Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Hey so I know this has been a topic of discussion before, I’ve only seen older forums but not necessarily the right answer I’m looking for. I’m a “noob” to the banshee world I just bought mine last year that already had abunch of mods done to it, I’ve learnt quite abit from reading on here so I’m blessed this site is here😝 so basically my question is hoping someone has some insight on this for me, I had my dad do a full rebuild on my engine, it let go after 15 hours of riding it there was multiple things they were half ass put together when I got it, but anyways it has a timing plate on it and I didn’t start looking into the quad until after it was built and I started putting the bike back together, it hasn’t been started or ran yet but I asked my dad about the timing he said it was marked at +11 and that’s what he put it back to, I’m assuming this is definitely one of the things that went wrong with it in the first place, I’ve noticed here that +4 - +6 is the sweet spot depending on what mods you have going. basically I’ve been wanting to bring this up to him as for I’m concerned about what will happen but hill just think I’m full of it, I would just like some back up proof as to what’s going to happen in this situation in the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boris Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 From what i know advancing timing is igniting fuel before top dead center which is beneficial at higher rpms thus we have cars with variable ignition timing and variable valve timing on engines. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the boris Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 If you advance timing far too much spark plug will ignite fuel too early and will expose pistons and bearings to much higher loads than normal. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I would not go over 4° on a new-build, especially when you don't know what the original problem was. also since you don't know what the original problem was , I would check your squish and do a leak down test , when done assembling. Got pics of old Carnage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killacaviar Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Also make sure the timing number that is desired is lined up the case halves crease. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshkid Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 hours ago, 375hp banshees said: I would not go over 4° on a new-build, especially when you don't know what the original problem was. also since you don't know what the original problem was , I would check your squish and do a leak down test , when done assembling. Got pics of old Carnage? Yeah that’s what I figured, what do you mean squish? An I would upload a pic but it won’t allow me👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawa110 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Type “Squish banshee HQ” into google. Squish is the clearance between piston and head at TDC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 ^^ & down load Tapatalk for pic's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshkid Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 So quick update question i went out an bought a puller because I didn’t have one, I dug into it and found out the timing was actually set to -1 on a stock motor should I run it at +4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Yes unless you had previous issues , that could have been related to timingSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Also make sure the timing number that is desired is lined up the case halves crease. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshkid Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 4:43 AM, 375hp banshees said: Yes unless you had previous issues , that could have been related to timing Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Yeah that’s what it was set to before and resulted having a hole in the top of my piston I haven’t started it yet, I’m still finishing up afew things but I hope it will run better now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshkid Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 4:57 AM, 375hp banshees said: Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk I’m aware of that, I’m guessing stock is just at 0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Stock is not adjustable, but It should be. 0=stock & stock would be zero, I would definitely do a compression, leak down & squish test, if you had a hole in your piston! If You still have your clutch cover off, do a leak down with cover off. To check for leaks @ keyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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