Well your mistaken on that I had a blast I even talked with a State park dude and he was cool as hell. I could not believe the big hill there it was crazy steep and long, I have been to KP twice and there is not a hill there that can compare to the one at Seminoe. I ran into alot of other quads out riding to, raced a fast raptor 880 that stood next to my cub (i really needed a override) but all together it was a blast.