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I can tell you are sexually frustrated and running out of ideas for come backs.

No dick on those babies! Sorry Dave, you will have to go somewhere else to find material to jack off to.

I will say just one thing about the "baby pic gate". If you think about sexuality when you see a naked baby pic, or a woman breast feeding a baby or a dad kissing his daughter, YOU are a fucked up individual who should seek for assistance. Envoyé de mon SM-S908W en utilisant Tapatalk

I’m not trying to piss on what you’re doing but I think you really need to sit down and re-evaluate this from a task-by-task start to finish standpoint. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can tell you right now that if you’re at the point of coming up with what it is that you want to offer, you’ve got a lot to contend with in the coming months/years. If you can get a frame out the door for $1500 and break even, then it either isn’t good steel, the tabs are going to rip off, it won’t pass x-ray, or it isn’t going to be accurate at all. The weld count and material alone will cost that plan out. If I had to do a run of OEM geometry banshee frames that wouldn’t have me sweating in a courtroom, they’d be sitting at over $4k/pop. Yeah Lonestar does it for $3k but they have a legal team, in house QC, every welder has company certs, every batch of wire is accounted for, every stick of tube has paperwork, and a whole wad of engineerings are running around scared to death to put stamps on anything. If you change even the weld procedure from what any existing chassis has, their engineering stamp no longer applies to you and it probably wasn’t good enough for today’s standards to begin with. Do you know what filler wire Laeger’s used 15 years ago? I don’t and Mark probably doesn’t remember. Mark Laeger and Doug Roll did this shit 20 years ago when it didn’t really matter. Times are different. Laeger’s also had 250R geometry but it wasn’t actually 250R geometry. To my knowledge, there was only 250R geometry aftermarket frame ever made that was true 250R geometry. Mine is the same with the YFZR. Laeger’s pro trax front end was great but you don’t need a protrax front end in any way. What made them great was nothing you couldn’t do with just good hardware on stock knuckles and 1 more modification. I know that last sentence is going to compel people to say I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I don’t give a shit because I dont make fabrication and engineering decisions based on “seems like” or “feels like.” Now I’m not going to go into how to solve all of these problems because at this point you’ve established yourself as a direct competitor of mine, but for every 12 hours I spend in my shop, 3 more go to properly documenting it and another 3 on the phone sorting out just what the hell has to be done to make sure that I’m not going to spend the rest of my life paying someone’s family that died on one of my frames because they wanted to get shitty drunk at the fall ride in some desert in Oklahoma and jump 3 toy haulers for 80 views on YouTube (yes Dave but also not Dave). I see what you’re wanting to do but also consider that your market will have people that you’re gonna have to really, really impress or people that aren’t gonna pay because they don’t know what they’re looking at. Let’s also remember that Apex (not sure if that’s the correct name) did sell a turn key YFZ based race quad that used a lot of factory stuff and it was absolutely wicked on a track but literally no one bought them. Why? $14999. People would rather pay $20000 over 5 years than to pay $14999 once. By far the biggest thing to me personally is that if you understand suspension geometry and vehicle dynamics, why are you stealing a design? I’ll be able to point at my chassis and look someone in their eyes and say, “See that? I made that shit.” That’s something you can’t buy and you certainly can’t steal it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What we need more than tax breaks is a team of agents to comb the internet to make sure no naked baby photo is ever seen again.

Wrong. The stuff me, NYUK and deadbeat posted years ago is not allowed anymore. That's why I am keeping in PG now, so Tyler doesn't ban anyone else.

This is the BHQ I remember! [emoji23][emoji23] Lucky DeadBeat isn’t here, he’d be posting shit that makes this look G rated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Dave, post some more of your memes. They are so good.

Dave, I didn't think you supported Biden. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk

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Dave, what channel is your show streaming on? Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk

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Logic has no place here

He’s catching a lot of heat because it’s Saudi backed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. The laegers and lonestar chassis' are much better than stock banshee, but it is super old technology and not as good compared to a modern design, like the yfzr. And rear shock change modification can be done to accommodate a yfzr shock to match the yfzr front end, but as tfaith discovered on my frame, the seat pan has to be modified. There is a super duper lot of research and suspension knowledge that goes in to designing a chassis like this, which is why tfaith is doing mine and I am not. I would recommend you buy several oem frames, including a complete yfzr and start measuring and experimenting. Get them on the track, test them, make modifications, etc. The other, easier option is to buy one of those tour de france banshee chassis' you are talking about and try to copy it without getting in legal trouble.

I've asked to be an Admin multiple times being I'm on here everyday and have spidey senses when it comes to spammers. Tyler won't do it though as he's worried people won't see the need for him anymore.

I actually enjoy this. Even the large majority of normal Dems think this is fucking ridiculous. The only people who think this is great are the complete freak show fucks who make up a very small percentage of the democratic voters. They are eating themselves from the inside out. It’s wonderful to watch! Claudia is still a sick fuck however.

I see Zilla EFI follow through here.

Thanks for the pics dano! This helped a lot.

Yeah, give me a narrow front end, true LT gullwing LFGGGGGG. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I like the idea and support you getting started out but I am already more interested in this DDQ/Tfaith collab frame than the stock geometry frame idea. I have a feeling i am not alone in that thinking either.

I just watched no longer than 9 hours ago, a woman directly in front of me, kill 183k of........ ......my babies.

I wanna fight

I'd like to know how the geometry of the laeger narrow chassis compares to modern race quad geometry, like the YFZR. I would think some things have changed since laegers designed that frame. @tfaith08 built a yfzr jig and is currently building me a yfzr geometry banshee frame.

ISF is currently making the spindles/parts. They are not cheap. If we can't get a new frame. Get me a straight one and I will take to the old shop and make a jig for it. It will cost me a few grand to make the jig/ pay for shop time. But then new ones can be made.

Very curious to see what happens here. Or what is proposed to happen. You give a liberal an inch, and they’ll try to take a mile. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hahahahaha I don't think he'll ever logon this site again

The N80F Needle is a little (one notch or so) leaner than the JJH needle. OKO uses the N80F on the 30mm which is actually a 28mm with a vertically stretched bore. We sometimes use it with 26mms when JJHs are a little rich.

I appreciate the other members questions of the individual that started this thread. He had to try someway to feel like he was getting even. He didn't deal with my wife Michelle. He dealt with me, Bob. His inconsistencies and ever changing story in his emails are why he couldn't file a claim through Paypal and his Negative feedback was not allowed by Ebay. He has tried his negative string, as one of the other guys said, on the YFZ forum as well. He also left one on Google reviews. We will reply to all. He purchased one of our kits earlier this year. Then contacted us saying he had an issue with all the large suspension bolts in the kit. He could only thread the nuts up to the Nylon in the Ny-loc nuts and then as he tightened them, they would lock up. That's why Anti-seize HAS to be used. This is a problem with the larger 10mm, 12mm & 14mm stainless bolts and Ny-loc nuts. That's why we send an information sheet with every order we send. It doesn't matter if it's one screw or a large ATV kit. Here's a copy of the warning in the instruction sheet we send. YOU MUST USE ANTI-SEIZE AS A REGULAR PRACTICE, PARTICULARLY IN BLIND HOLES OR WITH NYLON INSERT NUTS- IF YOU EVER WANT TO REMOVE THE FASTENER. IF IT IS NOT USED, THE BOLTS AND NUTS CAN BIND AND SEIZE. THEY WILL HAVE TO BE CUT OR BROKEN TO REMOVE. LOC-TITE IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NY-LOCK NUTS. USE ANTI-SEIZE! IT’S AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT WITH ALUMINUM! ON APPLICATIONS WHERE THERE IS VIBRATION, BLUE OR RED LOC-TITE CAN BE SUBSTITUTED FOR ANTI-SEIZE ON THE BOLTS. Large 10mm, 12mm & 14mm Diameter Stainless and large standard thread bolts have a propensity to cold weld with Nyloc nuts if anti-seize is not used. That's why anyone that sells stainless puts that info out for all to see. That includes ARP, who we are a distributor for them. I started questioning him about the fact he only had issues with those large bolts and his use of anti-seize. He finally admitted he didn't use it in one of his emails. He said he shouldn't have to. That's why Paypal and Ebay didn't back him in the many different claims he tried. He stated in one of the forum comments the whole box just got tossed. In his emails he said he couldn't return the kit for refund because he installed all the bolts on his Banshee except the large suspension bolts he locked up. He wanted money back for the suspension bolts he broke. Why keep breaking bolts? I just kept asking him for an explanation. He never would give one. He just kept saying those bolts had problems. If there was a thread problem. It wouldn't even start to thread. The fact he got them to thread to the Nylon shows a lot. He said he was an experienced builder. Why would an experienced builder just keep seizing up bolts and ruining them? All he had to do was contact us after the first bolt gave him a problem and we would have told him what to do and what his issue was. We would have even sent him a replacement, but we're not going to replace all of the suspension bolts because he just kept breaking them off. I don't know of any company that would do that? I wanted to make sure both sides of this story were out there for the Forum members. We have worked with Tyler and the BansheeHQ Forum for years as a sponsor. We stand by our products and if there is an issue, we will make it right. You can't please all customers all the time though!

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